MayDay

As the original poster of the thread, I intended it for Great Lakes Christmas Ale but how about we make it for holiday brews? :drunk:

If it isn't your own personal voting experience, don't even f#cking think of posting it in this thread. :-)

^Yep. I didn't see them taking down the piles of rubble, though.

Per your request :-) Sorry it looks less colorful - apparently the air is so stagnant today they've issued possible pollution warnings. Who knew?

^IIRC, there was a group in the Jewish community of either Cleveland Heights or South Euclid that took the city to court because they didn't want to vote in a church.

^Being an atheist, I really wouldn't give a sh!t. I was admiring the oak woodwork at my polling place, and I appreciate that they're an open and affirming UCC congregation but sorry - it's a beautiful building but that's where it ends. My guess is that not all libraries are equipped or laid out to handle crowds like that, or not every precinct has a neutral "municipal/community" center? Pure speculation but that's the only reason I can come up with.

"The flag that you talk about is the original Ohio City flag. Back in the early to mid 1800s, Ohio City was a separate municipality before it was annexed." I knew the separate municipality thing but not the flag - well I guess it's time for:

^I think that's due to the 668 Euclid rehab - with the one lane blocked, it's creating problems there. I could be wrong...

^That's the neighborhood flag of Ohio City.

Oops, sorry - been busy but I'll get some for you today :) Sorry to hear about your computer - hang in there!

Got to Pilgrim Congregational Church in Tremont at 6:50am - a line of about 15-20 people. It would have been less but apparently the person assigned the duty of checking IDs and names didn't have her glasses with her. Umm, 1. you'd think you'd have them if you're doing something important, like volunteering at the polls for a PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION and 2. you'd think the other volunteers would give her a different duty like handing people their ballots. :roll: Anyway, I understand that she needed people to spell their names to her - but uh, this is Tremont - here's a good example of a typical last name: All in all it wasn't that bad, but next time it's absentee for me.

"They completely left the Cleveland market." Not a surprise and with HH Gregg, Best Buy, etc., it's just like the auto and banking industries - polarization between the mega-stores and the little local spots.

It's not a bother at all, we know it's not easy to get a feel for a new city right away so we're glad to help. I can tell you with confidence that the Warrensville Heights building is waaay too far and about the only thing it's close to is a horse-racing track. Just to clarify, the Larchmere location is actually in Shaker Square as is the Shaker Boulevard location; Shaker *Square* is a neighborhood of the city of Cleveland (but it's adjacent to Shaker Heights which is an inner-ring suburb just south of Cleveland Heights). So - Shaker Square = city neighborhood; Shaker Heights = inner-ring suburb. If you go back to MyTwoSense's post upthread - both of these would fall under #3 (Shaker Square/Larchmere). You wouldn't have a direct line to Huron Hospital, but it would only be one bus trip to connect you to the Healthline. The Red Line Rapid (train) also goes by Huron Hospital but it's a little more of a walk, whereas the Healthline stop is on the same block as Huron Hospital.

^Euclid is an inner-ring lakefront suburb but it's a bit removed from transit arteries and entertainment/nightlife - from what I've heard of those apartments, they're alright but hardly in an area that could offer you the young/fun/social lifestyle you're probably looking for. They're also not terribly conveniently located either. I would steer away from them and look for something in downtown Cleveland, the Little Italy neighborhood of Cleveland, or the Cedar-Fairmount or Coventry neighborhoods of Cleveland Heights (another inner-ring 'burb but much closer to Huron Hospital). In all honesty, the Cleveland Clinic needs to get with it when it comes to their relocation/placing efforts for new hires/etc. They really seem like they don't understand that not everyone wants a typically suburban lifestyle in a single-family house in a bucolic subdivision - some people enjoy the city life and all the feedback I've heard is that the Clinic just doesn't "get it". Here's a general map to help you see why we're recommending some of the areas we are - the blue line on the map represents the brand-new Healthline (it's a bus rapid-transit service - imagine something like Toronto's streetcars as buses with priority signaling). Note on the second map that there's a stop directly in front of the Huron Hospital complex. A trip from the closest stop in Little Italy would be about 5 minutes (not including your walk to the station); a trip from downtown would be about 20-30 minutes but you'd also be close to downtown amenities, etc. Note the distance from the Euclid apartments you mentioned - and there's not much in the way of entertainment, nightlife, etc. The area just to the left of the red marked area (Little Italy) is University Circle, home to Case Western Reserve University, the Cleveland Museum of Art, Severance Hall (home to Cleveland's orchestra), and a lot of other terrific cultural institutions. By all means - if you come across an apartment that sounds like it has potential but you'd like feedback about the area, just let us know. And welcome to the forum! :-)

^The horns are too thick and should be more upright, the smaller black collar ruffles are missing, the purple collar is waaay too big and floppy... Sequins? Maleficent is not "sparkly" - she's the Mistress of All Evil, the lips are red not pink, the eyes are a yellowish green, the face could use a little tightening. and most importantly - Maleficent would NEVER make a face like that. That ain't Maleficent, that's a hot tranny mess!

"It's time the PD get that picture, as they are the MAIN media group that characterizes the city in this type of way!!!" If self-destruction is the picture they're going for, they get it loud and clear. The more they perpetuate the overly-negative mentality, the more people will 1. drop their subscriptions, 2. the more staff they'll have to lay off, and 3. the more that people who buy into it will leave the region.

It'd better be discussed somewhere else!

^Ahem, "Jones New York" Outlet - but yeah, it's good to see something there.

Excellent job and welcome to the forum! What kind of camera do you use?

"And maybe we could do a neighborhood location that's accessible by mass transit this time?" Not to be a smart@ss (well, a smidge) - the last happy hour was in the Gateway neighborhood, a few blocks from Tower City's transit hub and half a block from the Healthline ;-)

"Steve Litt _although I may not agree with everything he preaches, is a good writer, too." A good writer, yes - part of the "perpetuating negativity" crew? You tell me... "Cleveland has a legendary case of low self-esteem, born of a half-century of economic decline and a generation's worth of jokes about a certain flammable waterway." "The problem is that Cleveland's slide in vitality, population and status since World War II has been accompanied by an equally long slide in design standards and achievement." "For Cleveland, a city coping with crime, poverty, a shrinking population and a mortgage meltdown in many neighborhoods, the new designs offer a solid indication that the future might be very different." "It’s tough to be a Clevelander in a year pepper-sprayed with news about crime and poverty, population loss and suburban sprawl."

I know Cleveland isn't always an easy city to love, but a visit to the West Side Market always seems to make it easier to put up with some of the flaws. I know other cities have similar markets and I've been to several, but they just aren't the same.

^http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2008/10/fatal_house_fire_5_shot_in_unr.html

"I understand we'll get the jabs when we mention Cleveland's poverty (true) and economic challenges (true) and crime (true)." See, it would be one thing if those issues were "mentioned". However, some at the PD seem to feel that an article isn't complete without those issues being mentioned two or three times in every other article or column. Often, it's not relevant - and the only thing accomplished is a perpetuation of the negative editorializing. I should note that there are some who do a great job, providing the less-than-pleasant facts as just that - relevant facts. A prime example would be Michelle Jarboe; HJG, I'm not as familiar with yours so I can't say. Is it sad that the PD is facing layoffs and people will lose their jobs? Sure. Are the PD's dwindling circulation numbers a shock to anyone? It shouldn't be, especially to quite a few at 1801 Superior - specifically those who feel the need to editorialize every other article like McCleveland has pointed out. A drop of 8.5% *should* be a sign that something isn't being done right, but what do we know, we're just "boosters" as I was called by one of the PD's finest for daring to question their thrashing of the DCA's anti-panhandling campaign. :roll: I can't put it any better myself - "Why can't the PD just report the news without constantly ingraining negative editorializing into the regions head." If you (the folks at the PD) think the persistent negative editorializing equals "objective journalism" and is a good trend, be our guests. Just don't complain when your subscriber base continues to plummet and more people lose their jobs.