MayDay

And STAY ON TOPIC!!!

Welcome to the forum, twear!

I wonder if I lock this thread - will I be labeled not only a child-hater, but a racist? Boy, the pressures I face...

I hate having to edit ambiguous topic titles that don't name the city, but that's just me. :roll: And looking at the two links, I don't see any correlation - can you give me a reason to not lock this? :wtf:

If the trees planted are as grown/tall as shown in the renderings, I'll be a happy camper. jpop and MTS, simmer down.

That's the biggest issue I have - I despise those bunker/islands, but the older, taller trees that used to be there aren't really common around downtown. And saplings don't really do much for shade.

Let's see, the title of the post clearly says "LAKEWOOD". Knowing that, would I post homes that are located in Cleveland? That's about as likely as me cutting a "brotha" some slack, papi!

I lived in CLEVELAND, not Lakewood - just like you live in CLEVELAND, not Shaker Heights. :whip: The white house is on Lake, near the Clifton Park area (western edge of Lakewood). This is easily my favorite in Lakewood: It and the other "Normandy" style home are designed by Clarence Mack, who did the "Federal" styled homes on Lake Avenue. Here's a great article from the Lakewood Historical Society site: http://www.lakewoodhistory.org/artifacts/lhsn19.htm

The historic district reminds me of Edgewater, my former neighborhood in Cleveland, right up to the oddly placed pair of ranch homes!

This thread is useless without...

"Walked up to the Garfield Monument, but someone got shot a block behind me halfway up that hill. It was crazy...cops came from the cracks." "I heard two gunshots, ducked behind a tree, saw the cop cars and decided the get the hell out of there." And someone set off some M80s in my hood last night :roll:

Simply put: more mileage + higher fuel costs + stagnant regional population growth + oh hell, you get the idea... but then again, it's only up to RTA staff to lobby for funds, right? ;-) From cleveland.com: RTA service cuts expected despite increased ridership http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2008/06/rta_service_cuts_expected_desp.html Posted by Patrick O’Donnell June 24, 2008 21:00PM Categories: Breaking News, Environment, Traffic Want more RTA bus service to relieve the overcrowding you're enduring since gas prices skyrocketed? Not going to happen. Instead, brace yourself for more possible route cuts, fare hikes or fuel surcharges. .....

^Thanks, they've already purchased some of them :-)

^According to you, Oakwood (and every other pocket of Cleveland) is a "gayborhood". :roll:

Well, that's MY line as an Admin around here! :whip: ;-)

It's "thank you sir, may I have another?!?" :laugh:

Just like when someone tells me "you the MAN!!!", you can just stop that. ;-)

It's as generalizing, inaccurate, and unnecessary as the "I know none of you care about what people in the suburbs think" comment. That said, play nice kids. :whip:

"It's not that we're stupid and we don't understand." Yes, I clearly see where I called you and all suburbanites "stupid". :wtf: "It's that a) we'd like to voice our opinions on the forum without bashing" Let's be fair - I think you're being hypersensitive. Whenever someone says "you 'stupid' suburbanites, don't you know better?", I send them a reprimand and if they continue "bashing", they get suspended. Whenever it's suggested to people that they adapt, or might have to change their routine, they complain. It's human nature, we all do it. But when someone offers an explanation as to why things are the way they are, how is that "bashing"? The most caustic thing I would say is that some suburbanites just don't get it. That's hardly "bashing". "There are plenty of places in the world where a 12 mile radius wouldn't be an unheard of distance to expect regular and reliable public trans," Examples? More to the point - examples that are comparable to Cleveland in areas of geography/sprawl, economy and population? I'm all ears. "I don't know why this is posited as a ridiculous notion except for the fact that RTA doesn't have the MONEY to serve those people." See above. :-)

Simply put, it's a tradeoff that some suburbanites just don't understand - if you want the most constant transit service, you move to a more dense/urban area. If you move to an area that wasn't built for constant transit service, why should RTA completely rework their business model and infrastructure to accomodate an inefficiently planned area? More people in a more compact area (city) = more customers = revenue for transit operations, and a more efficient business model for RTA (or any other system). Taken to an extreme, you have NYC - and guess what, they have transit service out the wazoo. Less people in a more spread out area (suburbs, specifically outer burbs) = less revenue and more distance needed to travel, more fuel to buy, more wear & tear on vehicles. Taken to an extreme, you have Streetsboro - and guess what, they have barely existent service. People can make whatever choices they want, but at some point the onus is on THEM to adapt to the choices they've made.

"I know none of you care about what people in the suburbs think, I am posting this as an FYI for the RTA peeps." Get off the cross :roll: Sure, *some* people have busted your chops, but that's unfair to the rest of us.

That's fine, I'll keep posting from the Bond Court Office building, and after I'm done at work, I'll go home to Pelton Park, relax on the davenport after a long night of drinking at the saloon. :-P

^Actually it's Star Plaza, looking west at the East 13th station. So nanny nanny boo boo. :-D

Some construction shots of the stations: East 13th station (looking west from Star Plaza): East 9th:

Mmm, I love the smell of construction in the morning! I dunno, would you REALLLLY want a view like this on a nice Saturday morning sipping your coffee on the balcony? Actually you could enjoy on the weekdays if you worked downtown too ;-)