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I suppose things like that could go in the "Travel/Relocation" section, or maaaaybe the Urbanbar. It's not a bad idea, but I don't know if it would get enough use to justify having a whole separate area. Annnnnd BACK ON TOPIC please! :-)

Is the Cleveland Restoration Society aware of this?

Mark my words, Detroit-Shoreway is under the radar now but it won't be for long and people will be grumbling about the newbies and suburbanites and saying the same thing. Sorry, I just think it was a silly afterthought of a comment that has little to do with construction in the Detroit-Shoreway neighborhood.

^Yeah, that'll NEVER happen to Detroit-Shoreway :roll:

Burt Hill? I mean, it'd be one thing to go from MVRDV to say, KPF or their ilk, but BURT HILL? *hork*

"I have lived in the smallest studio hovel rather than have roomates." Amen, sister!

Great shots in both sets!!!

I live in Tremont and I'm the first to admit there has been a *rare* occasion or two where I've not felt the safest, but no more than I would in any urban neigbhorhood in the US. Like goteenb has said, some of the older kids in groups can be reason for concern. However, my comfort level is likely different from yours (different, not better) and if you and your wife don't care for Tremont/Ohio City, or whatever neighborhood - that's fine. :-) I was asking so we could address any specific concerns and/or dispel any inaccurate information. No one's going to think any less of you, and whatever info you can give us can help us steer you somewhere that's more to your liking.

Fair enough. And to other forumers - there's no need to get all worked up, they're entitled to their opinion :-)

"We've looked in Ohio City and Tremont, but after hours of driving and walking through those 2 areas have decided they aren't for us." If you don't mind my asking - what didn't work for you about Ohio City and Tremont?

^Alright, I can take a hint :roll: ;-)

A Romare Bearden MURAL?!? How f#cking cool is that! Sorry - my inner art history minor in my undergrad is talking again.

Said by a young couple as we were leaving the Feist concert at the Palace Theatre last night: Him: "Wanna grab a drink?" Her: "Where?" Him: "I dunno, there's all kinds of places down here now - didn't use to be." Her: "Can we walk to East 4th from here?" Him: "You up for it?" Her: "Sure!" Had I heard this a few years ago, I'd have thought they were out of their minds.

^Find anyone who is listing a home without tax abatement - ask them how they feel about competing with 15-year tax abated new construction a block away. Find anyone who is trying to sell a property that has its tax abatement coming to an end and ask them how they feel about competing with tax abated new construction. Sure, it's resulted in some actual physical development which is a good thing but it's artificially propping up the market.

"Second, there may be restrictions on what you can/can't attach to the facade of a historic building, especially if you use the City's Storefront Renovation Program to help pay for the rehab." Bingo!

^In certain neighborhoods - Detroit-Shoreway being a prime example - it's a perfectly practical option.

"IT'S BECAUSE YOU LIVE IN THE F#CKING DESERT!!!!! AAAAAAAAUGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!" :laugh:

"^Yeah, when Tiffany comes to town, many attached men's wallets take a beating. That store's all marketing." Bah!

Five years? Ppffffttt! Welcome to the wonderful world of gentrification - if you think it's bad here, you're going to be in for a surprise. I have friends in other cities where they rented a cheap but decent place and within TWO years their neighborhood got "hot" and they're already contemplating relocating due to rising prices.

^Werthers!

^ http://www.city.cleveland.oh.us/government/departments/pubservice/waste/collection.asp

It sure is.

AlexKarr, a new forumer has announced a pilot for a comedy series filmed in/around Cleveland. There will be a local showing at Talkies on May 3rd, here's the thread: http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,15907.msg277874.html#msg277874