MayDay

^Obviously they didn't ask one of "my people" to handle the food.

It's one of David's "inner monologue" threads, what do you expect? :lol:

Thanks KJP :-)

really? care to name a few of these such examples in cleveland? Not so much in recent history, but it's been known to happen. Next!

And another example of a "campus" in the lower right:

"Is it the word “campus” that is conjuring up scary thoughts?" Yes.

What I would hate to see is something like the Owens Corning "campus" in Toledo. It engages the waterfront and like a lot of Pelli designs, the materials used on the facade are handsome but look at how it interacts with the area immediately west (to the right of this photo, where the rest of downtown Toledo is): Photo from Hines Properties:

And who started it?

By then it'll be too late, so we can at least set up a marshalling yard and start divvying out the oil.

"For those of us who have a genuine love for Ohio; we should be careful with our words and tone and to share more positive stories. We should continue to voice our concerns, but let's remember how many people are developing opinions based on our words." I have to respectfully disagree - there is one thing I that absolutely love about Cleveland (not so much Ohio because what I'm about to say doesn't apply statewide) - it's that the people that truly love this city, love it - warts and all. We'll b!tch about what's not right, but that doesn't change things deep down. What I would never ever want to see is some kind of pollyanna approach where "everything's just GREAT!" and anything remotely to the contrary gets frowned upon or completely ignored. That's not what makes Clevelanders who we are. We're not super-bubbly outgoing people who just LOVE everyone and our city is not just PERFECT and LOVELY - and I'm okay with that, as are most Clevelanders who share a love for this city. If anything, Clevelanders are down-to-earth, we're approachable, we tell it like it is, and people outside of our region seem to take that as a breath of fresh air. Like anyone else, we LIKE it when we have positive stories to share but when we don't, it's another reason to grumble and have a beer or three. Sure, Clevelanders can be crass and low-brow but I would take that any day over a "pageant queen" approach of a perma-smile mentality. You're right, there are way too many people in the region "grumbling" and not enough focus is being given to the positive stories like you said, but censoring our personalities because of how we might be perceived? It's one thing to realistically focus on what's going right - which I think everyone in northeast Ohio could do better, but I don't think we need to delve into mindless boosterism for boosterism's sake.

They have one? And you'd actually use it? :-o

My comment wasn't directed at you, FE.

Bring it on, mami!

A sports bar? There? Well I guess there used to be Slam Jams across the street but still...

Here's what I say to that!

JDD, I'm just busting everyone's chops - although I'm not the one sizing you up for some perceived "position"! :laugh:

^^No. So help me, god I will take down this entire forum...

And a thread that's been dormant for two months gets resurrected why?

No, it's the trainwreck of the week - we're letting it stay unlocked for amusement purposes only.

The last part of that post could easily be a euphemism...

I was just going to say - it seems like a lot of people around here could use a drink or some action - or both.

Hi cdogz, although there's a tie-in - this is already being discussed in the "Cleveland's downtown vacancy rates" thread http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,4266.msg254735.html#new

Um, the goatp!ss served on most planes is not something I would want to consume. Ugh, what a horrible thought - if god forbid something happened - my last beer would have been poured from a can?!? Ack!!! The horror!!!

You ain't just whistlin' 'Dixie' - it's nice to be able to have a beer (or two) to take off the pre-flight "edge".

From Crains Cleveland Key to exit May Co. building for Higbee Bldg. By STAN BULLARD 10:46 am, February 6, 2008 KeyCorp (NYSE: KEY) plans to move 1,000 employees in downtown Cleveland across Ontario Street from the May Co. building to the Higbee Building. The banking company and Higbee Building owner Forest City Enterprises Inc. (NYSE: FCE.A, FCE.B) jointly announced that KeyCorp has signed a 15-year lease for about 221,000 square feet of office space at the landmark former department store at 100 Public Square. More at http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20080206/FREE/193900832/1004&Profile=1004