MayDay

If I Recall Correctly. :-)

At one point in the late 80s, the southern half of the superblock was zoned for twin 40-story towers which would have been built for First Union (now Wachovia). I'd be curious to see if that zoning still applies.

This list isn't comprehensive, so I'll keep updating as I remember: Cleveland Metro Smart Bar U4ia Trilogy/Metropolis Club 1148 Aqua Moda Shooters Legends The Basement Cloud 9 Van Gogh Cafe D'Vine Jillians in the Flats 5 Cent Decision Leather Stallion Flat Iron Cafe Twist The Hawk Deco Bounce/Union Station The Cage Rockies Oasis (on W. 29th) Visions The Grid (W. 9th) The Grid (St. Clair) Numbers Atlantis Hamiltons 9 of Clubs Mercury Lounge Eve Liquid/Fusion Spy Bar ABC Tavern Argos/Longevity Mans World/Shed South Side Hotz Boneyard Domino Lounge Apex BOY Diamondback Brewery Rock Bottom Brewery Thirsty Parrot Edisons Flannerys House of Cues Hooples Velvet Tango Room Lava Lounge The Garage Bier Markt Great Lakes Brewing Company Market Avenue Wine Bar Touch Supper Club Bottoms Up/Abasso House of Blues Velvet Dog Sunset Lounge V Lounge View 2527 Prosperity Social Club Ritz-Carlton Lounge Old Angle Parkview Sinergy Winking Lizard (downtown) McGintys (Lakewood) McCarthys (Lakewood) Around the Corner (Lakewood) Rush Inn (Lakewood) Martinis (Lakewood) Sullivans (Lakewood) McNultys (Cleveland Heights) Rhythm Room (Cleveland Heights) Pub on Lee (Cleveland Heights) Varietals (Cleveland Heights) Fairmount Martini Bar (Cleveland Heights) Winking Lizard (Cleveland Heights) Bar Louie (Lyndhurst) Akron Metro Interbelt Babylon Club 358 Tear-Ez Adams Street Jillians Annabelles Thursdays The Attic Cocktails Bedrocks Status Lydias Kepners (Hudson) Brubakers (Hudson) Winking Lizard (Peninsula) Scorchers (Cuyahoga Falls) Rays (Kent) Town Tavern (Kent) Shark Club (Kent) Palomino (Kent) The Loft (Kent) Canton The Boardwalk 540 Walnut BB McClains Youngstown Cedars Penguin Pub Joshua II The Exchange Jillians Salem BB Rooners Penn Grille Side Door Hickory Rib Timberlanes Lounge Rickys Pub Columbus Axis Havana Wall Street Brewery in the Nationwide District Some awful after-hours west of downtown Cincinnati York St. Cafe Sudsys Mt. Adams Pavillion The Dock Top Cats The Comet Hamburger Marys DV8 Northside Tavern Clau Havana Martini Club Bar at the Orchid at Palm Court Chicago Cocktail Circuit Hydrate Roscoe's Sidetrack New York City Limelight Roxy Tunnel USA Plaid Robots Le Bar Bat Hiro XL SBNY Lipps Therapy East of 8th G Lounge Barracuda Gyms Heartland Brewery (Rockefeller Ctr.) CBGBs Webster Hall B Bar Viceroy Balthazar Russian Tea Room Pittsburgh Eagle Images Pegasus (possibly the most horrific gay club I've ever set foot in) Washington DC Traxx Fifth Colvmn Baltimore Orpheus Las Vegas Tao Buddha Bar at the Palms Krave Phoenix Amsterdam BS West Charlies Red Bar Sky Bar Puerto Penasco, Mexico JJs Margaritavilla The Point

^I think there was a "Queer Eye" episode where they basically told a balding guy to just shave it off. I don't know how much impact that would have, but who knows? Maybe it's an admiration of Vin Diesel's machismo? "Mayday (of perfect hair and skin)" You obviously haven't seen me in person. And like I said - it depends on the person!

I don't think jamiec is just complaining for complaining's sake - I've experienced the same thing. Granted I've had a few more years to cultivate friendships, etc. but in that time I've had plenty of experiences similar to his.

Only a glimpse to be sure, but interesting to see some of the massings look to be the height of 55 Public Square (300 ft.).

Again, it's one of those "it depends on the person" things (how it's styled, etc.) but some examples: Bozo: http://www.kidzmusic.com/images2/john_lithgow_s.jpg Tadpole (also known as "it's not falling out, it's just falling backward): http://www.stars-productions.com/AR/_come/bob-goldthwait.jpg

Can someone explain the point of these faux Juliet balconies? Leftover railings and they needed somewhere to stick them? "136 residential units will also co-exist in an urban environment" Let's see... in downtown Cleveland, the Bingham Building (rehabbed warehouse) has about 330+ residential units, but this place with 136 units will be an urban environment. :wtf:

I'd rather see a bald head than a comb-over or the "bozo"/tadpole look. And on some guys - bald head + goatee = :-D

"I think Cleveland is a great place to live, but I'm with a little more of a year's worth of context behind me, I feel like it sucks for being young and single and without a pre-built social circle." Being young and single without an established social circle sucks period; it's not just Cleveland. Like KJP said, I'm not exactly a Cleveland native but most of my friendships I now enjoy began either in college or at stints at various jobs over the past 10 years. You 20-somethings are so d@mned impatient! ;-) "It didn't seem like it was like this in New York, and I guess maybe it's because there are so many people there from somewhere else?" That's likely, and NYC definitely has the edge for having a more transient population. However, over the years, my friends in New York will tell you that it can be a curse as well as a blessing. A blessing because there's always new people; a curse because there's always new people. My gay friends in NYC will tell you they can have a bazillion hookups but a relationship is really challenging precisely because of the transient nature there.

I say sentence the negligent parents along with the worthless scumbags (excuse me, "good kids who just got in with the wrong crowd" :roll:) From cleveland.com: Woman hit, killed by stolen car driven by 13-year-old Posted by Amanda Garrett August 04, 2007 23:33PM Categories: Breaking News A 57-year-old Brecksville woman visiting the Theater District on Saturday was killed by a 13-year-old boy driving a stolen car and fleeing Cleveland police, according to police. The car hit the woman, Virginia DiGiorgio, who was crossing the street at the intersection of East 14th Street and Prospect Avenue. More at cleveland.com http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2007/08/woman_hit_killed_by_stolen_car.html

"Listen, we don't need one of your tangents here...STAY ON TOPIC!!!" That's MY line! Honestly, I've been with skyscraperpage.com's forum since day 1 (or day 2, I've been on it for almost 10 years anyway), and the only criticism I have is that it's a bit skewed to North America. Beyond that, the moderators there are pretty even-handed and not overly-strict. Skyscrapercity began as an offshoot of SSP and it just seemed to get a lot of the people who were banned for trolling on SSP. Not only that, but they'll have people copy my threads (and photos) and not even bother to mention that it's MY work. On SSP, they'd get called out - on SSC, not so much. Urbanplanet? Honey, please!

I'm not saying the PD is great, but at least they list their editorials in the Editorial section. The article you posted (regardless of anyone's opinion on the issue) was fine until the "However, this is little solace...". I'm not saying I disagree with opposition to the legislation, but that kind of flagrant editorializing is exactly why people think Channel 19 is sensationalist tripe.

Yeah, Plain Press... clearly an objective news source.

"Why do you think Blacks, Latins, Gays/Lesbians/Bi/Transgendered feel oppressed?!" No, oppression would likely mean some kind of action on their part - it's more like exclusion and neglect.

I'm not calling him out, but CityLiving posted this shortly before the Cleveland+ campaign was unveiled... I think it's rather revealing: "I'm on the committee that the GCP (actually the GCMA... same people) recruited to create feedback on this stuff... Its a lot of young professionals with regional diversity, but no racial/ethnic/sexual diversity. Mostly white males varying in age from around the region as a whole." What I see in this city, particularly in groups like GCP and others - is an aversion to 1. asking and 2. "sharing the glory". God knows people from GCP, DCA, and other organizations lurk on this forum*, and we hear all the time "what a wonderful resource!", "you guys really know your stuff!", etc. However, when was the last time someone from any of these groups directly approached us to tap into our know-how, skills, and talents? God knows we couldn't possibly get compensated - but they can't even approach us on this "wonderful resource" for volunteer work! They have to go and ask the only people they know (younger versions of themselves) and then wonder why the general public feels ho-hum. Going back to CityLiving's quote - it's pretty pathetic that the stodgy/conservative bank I used to work for realizes and understands the value of diversity more than the GCP does. :roll: *To those who do contribute and participate, thank you - but could you get the others in your organization to reveal themselves and join in? What are they afraid of?

"I mean, the friggin river burned about 40 years ago, and people are still friggin bringing it up!" That's not necessarily a bad thing, I bring up the burning river quite often ;-) Seriously though - when CBS was in town, they even brought up the river fire and said "now, if people say burning river, they're talking about a beer." Most people I know who have visited Cleveland love it; the most negative thing I've heard is "it'd be nice if there were more stores downtown", but hell, even I say that sometimes. In general the usual feedback I hear is 1. the people are friendly and down to earth, 2. downtown is nice and clean, 3. the neighborhoods have a lot of character.

If we are talking about using photos for a strictly academic purpose (i.e. a presentation for a class), it's generally okay to use them provided they're given proper citation. HOWever, some photographers are a little touchy about any of their images being used for any purpose and it might be a good idea to get permission just to be sure. Whenever I've been contacted by students wanting to use my images, I'm usually more than happy to help - and I usually have more stuff available in my archives but they wouldn't know that unless they asked. Now as far as renderings of projects - we're usually lucky to even get them; and they're sometimes copied from other media sources. The problem there is that it's possible the designers (or developers) have an exclusive agreement with certain media outlets. We would have to get permission from not only the architect/designer, but the original media outlet as well. Then there are the issues of preventing mis-use. Suppose some NIMBY is opposed to a new project, finds a rendering on our image bank and makes posters and plasters them all over town? 1. We'd never be privy to any renderings again, 2. We'd have some very p!ssed off designers/developers to deal with. And it wouldn't be the forum at large, it would richNcincy and ColDayMan (as proprietors). I think the idea is good in theory, but given the reality of copyright issues, I just don't think it wouldn't be feasible.

I was at Erasure as well - Andy still sounds great!

You're ALL going to get back on topic, dammit! :whip:

75 for my hood (Tremont); 38 for my hometown (Salem, Ohio).

For what it's worth, I was contacted by a local architecture firm who wanted to buy hi-res photos of the site. They happily bought image licenses, so I can only imagine they're being used for renderings of the site :-)

To whoever this parent is - THANK YOU!

I went by today but it's absurdly hot today, and the glare on the windows wasn't conducive for photos. Sorry!

"We're a (more or less) free society. People are able to seek the surroundings they prefer, to the limits of their capability." If people lived in a complete bubble, that would be just ducky. If peoples' actions had no consequences, or consequences that only affected them - I'd agree with you. However, their "capability" is often at taxpayer expense in highway/utility extenstion subsidies, etc. which is then at the expense of older areas who could use the funds for aging infrastructure. Once the new areas fall out of favor or get "exurbanized", the process repeats itself. So if you leave consider things like responsible use of resources, sustainable land use, etc. to be us imposing our values on others, I guess many of us are guilty as charged.