MayDay

punch, it wasn't a stand alone building as you can see from this image: And in this image, you can see the "ghost" of the former building that connected to the Rotunda. MTS, the first things my partner said when he saw the models were "but that's not a tower!" and "Um, bad Rockside Road office park?!?".

^Vile, atrocious... ohhh, you mean, what it actually is? Good question - I was wondering the same thing.

He asked for neighborhoods within the city limits. Monte, Cleveland doesn't have a all-posh neighborhood like Cincy's Hyde Park per se. There are quite a few nice neighborhoods such as Edgewater (million-dollar lakefront homes), Shaker Square, portions of Tremont and Ohio City, but the closest thing you might find to Hyde Park would be the Cedar-Fairmount area of Cleveland Heights or the Old Downtown area of Rocky River (both inner-ring 'burbs).

Ingenuity and Taste of Tremont festivals, that is! I headed over to the Ingenuity Festival (http://www.ingenuitycleveland.com) on Friday, here's what I saw: I only had a few minutes to swing by during lunch but there was a nice crowd. Unfortunately I had to head out but I'd be back later in the afternoon. On the way back, I got a nice shot of Short Vincent - formerly one of Cleveland's more infamous streets (back in the burlesque days), now a glorfied loading dock: I'd never say that the Breuer Tower is "pretty", but this made me reconsider that: The facade of the Cleveland Athletic Club: I made it back to Ingenuity around 3pm, and the gallery for the Breuer Tower proposals was open. I can't remember all the details on these but some were really cool - others were just bizarre: Closing off Euclid Avenue with a Hulett ore unloader? :wtf: This submission had some snarky commentary about "Cleveland's infatuation with neoclassical buildings" or something like that: :lol: The crowds were a little thinner but I guess technically the big events weren't starting until 5pm: I decided to head over to the War Memorial Plaza: And lo and behold, a bridal party. You're welcome guys - don't say I never did anything for ya! ;-) That's all for Friday! Sunday was the Taste of Tremont festival - always a good time! En route - too bad we can't get a "Cap" like Columbus has over 670! Church? Check. Worker-cottage homes? Check. Alterna-punk people with tattoos? Check. Quirky dog breeds? Check. Yep, we're in Tremont alright! And with temps in the mid-70s, the crowds were out: St. John Cantius (Polish Catholic) was open but we didn't have time to stop in (check the main page's Cleveland/Tremont section for interior shots): Yep, the "A Christmas Story" House people had their booth, just in case you needed to pick up a "major award!" Yes, it IS a lovely day for a Guiness! PUG!!! The band was on their break, so I can't tell you if they were any good: Good times in the beer garden: At this point, we ran into some friends who invited us to check out a studio of a friend - sure, why not? The view from the studio of the beer garden - still well populated: If ever there was an argument for burying power lines :roll: I *think* this is an Austin-Healey - they're asking $12,500: A pretty typical Tremont street: An old-school Tremont spot, the Literary Cafe: Okay, they can yell at Mittal Steel to clean up, but as I've witnessed, they can't clean up after their dog... even with the city-provided bags. Typical. :roll: Russian Orthodox, Korean Catholic, United Church of Christ (2 of them), Iglesias Latinas (3 or 4 of them), Syrian Orthodox, and that's just for starters. Here's St. George's - one of Tremont's many churches: Hope you got out and enjoyed the weekend!

Dan, I sent you a PM with details, but just a few suggestions and three minutes in Photoshop: 1. A cleaning - not a sandblasting, but a good powerwash should bring a little more of that brick color out. 2. Replace the pipe railing with wrought iron, and add a flowerbox at the landing. 3. Add a fabric awning with light fixture to that same landing, and add shrubs to the front of the steps. 4. Remove the side awning entirely and replace it with an appropriate light fixture (brighten up a foreboding entryway). 5. A big project, but if you can relocate the unsightly utility gauges, that would add to the curb appeal.

Ahh, sorry - thought this was a family trip. In that case, definitely shoot for staying downtown so you can explore the East 4th Street area (and be able to stumble back). Tremont (my 'hood, btw) is definitely a good place for bars and restaurants http://www.restoretremont.com/dining/, plus there's the Christmas Story house http://www.achristmasstoryhouse.com/. You'd also want to check Ohio City - during the day, you could take the Rapid from the Tower City (Terminal Tower) station to the West 25th station. From there, there's the West Side Market http://www.westsidemarket.com, and the holiest of beer places, Great Lakes Brewing Company http://www.greatlakesbrewing.com MTS and the pope can give advice for Shaker Heights.

"The Cleveland Movement, a weekly gathering of residents who advocate for black and poor people," Since only black and poor people live in Cleveland, I guess it makes sense for them to have that name :roll:

Monte, if hotwire.com gives you the option of University Circle, it's likely you'd be placed in one of the Intercontinental hotels at the Clinic. As MTS said, ideally stay downtown if you can - and check some hotel sites directly, because you never know. If you're spending time in Akron, definitely check out their recently expanded (and getting great reviews nationally) art museum, and if you have time, the Highland Square neighborhood along West Market is a nice area. If you end up at one of the Clinic hotels, there's not much in the immediate area (meaning two-minute walking distance) since it's basically a hospital campus. However, since you'll be driving that's okay since the attractions of University Circle proper are literally about eight blocks away. I'd recommend visiting the Cleveland Museum of Art (www.clevelandart.org) - even just the grounds are cool, the lagoon was designed by Olmsted, the Cleveland Botanical Gardens (www.cbgarden.org), maybe the Natural History Museum... the Weatherhead building (aka Frank Gehry) is fun for a few minutes. Basically, park the car near the art museum (or at the Botanical Gardens in their covered garage), and walk around. One cool little trip would be Lakeview Cemetery, which is like Cincy's Spring Grove - it has the Garfield Monument, Wade Chapel (Tiffany mosaic interior) and some all-around cool spots. There's also Little Italy which is just east of University Circle - some great dinner spots (La Dolce Vita, Battuto, etc.), some great dessert spots (Corbos - one of the SSP forumers from Charlotte stops there EVERY time he's in town because his wife orders him to get the chocolate covered peanut butter cookies). If you continue east up Mayfield Road, you'll end up at Coventry which isn't unlike Cincy's Clifton/Ludlow area (funky shops, collegiate feel). Let me know if any of these peak your interest and I can PM some more details.

"Mayday, MTS... you would probably loose." What's THAT supposed to mean?!? Oh alright... 'I gotta be meeee... what else could I beeee...' Excellent shots of everything and everyone! I do have to admit I have a mental block when it comes to white guys wearing dashikis but that's just a personal thing. I'm sure they're good, nice, wonderful people - it just doesn't seem right to me.

The only rendering of the Pelli design that the PD (who else) released was an interior shot of an atrium. That's why you didn't see it. It might not be my favorite, but it definitely has merit, and is certainly better than the KPF/Madison crystalline poo-pile.

It looks like in the last model photo, the pedestrian bridge is still there (or its a new bridge) connecting to the existing garage. Lord knows they have to preserve a parking garage!

Slanted roofs like that will be great during the winter, or rainy days, especially in those windswept plazas ... :roll:

My partner's pugs have left similarly-shaped things in the yard... I never thought of their "works" as building inspiration but what do I know? :wtf:

Well look at what I found during the Ingenuity Festival! Proposal from Cesar Pelli and Associates Proposal from Davis Brody Bond (the only re-use proposal) Proposal from Perkins and Will Proposal from Fleischman and Associates Drum roll please ... the winning design from KPF and Robert Madison I'd LOVE to know what on god's green earth is on the side of the Rotunda Building here: And the floorplan - http://www.clevelandskyscrapers.com/ccadmin7.jpg I thought seeing the models instead of the crappy crayola sketch might make me not despise this proposal as much. In fact, it's made me detest it even more.

True - she was being interviewed (I forget which channel) and let's just say SHE didn't seem very convinced :roll:

Although the apartments themselves are nice, the Dixson Hall building is a bit off the beaten path - and as 3231 said, it's not really safe or unsafe per se, but it does get desolate. I'd lean toward 8Shade's recommendations based on what you've told us.

You'll have to excuse MyTwoSense's provincialism. :roll:

Now that's a little more like it!

^Except those doing it (in the case of Med Mart) are using my money, which I would be fine with. What I'm not fine with is they don't have a good track record of spending it well. If Maron (or another competent developer) was in charge of the Med Mart/Convention Center, I'd be thrilled!

When a schedule says a certain venue, saaay the 1305 Euclid gallery, will be open "All Day", can someone explain why said venue would be closed on a Friday at lunchtime? The home page says the main event hours are 5pm-9pm (a brilliant way to make 130,000 downtown workers avoid the festival at lunch - since according to the home page, it isn't open!), and this schedule says "All Day". I wouldn't be so miffed if this was the first time this happened but every year of the festival's existence, they've always managed to have this kind of scheduling problem. I really truly want to support this event, but get it together, people! :x http://www.ingenuitycleveland.com/files/PrtScheduleFri.pdf

Honey, as many times as I've had people (both men and women) come back and thank me for that advice, I oughta be Dr. Ruth! :lol:

Definitely hit the Signature Room at night... overpriced drinks but less expensive than the observation deck. The view from the 95th floor of the Hancock can't be beat. If your gal likes foo-foo chocolate, swing by and treat her at Vosges (chocolate store). You don't have to spend a lot, and let's just say that most women worth mentioning respond VERY well to good chocolate :-D http://www.vosgeschocolate.com/boutiques Two locations - one in the Loop: Chicago – Downtown 520 N. Michigan Avenue (North Bridge Mall) Chicago, IL 60611 Ring: 312.644.9450 Hours: Mon-Sat. 10-8, Sun. 11-6 And the mothership boutique: Chicago – Lincoln Park 951 W. Armitage (at Sheffield) Chicago, IL 60614 Ring: 773.296.9866 Hours: Mon-Thurs. 10-7, Fri-Sat 10-8, Sun 11-6

55 miles? Ouch! Bus tickets in Cleveland are $1.50 each way (or you can get monthly passes, etc.). I'm really not sure of a good roommate source - maybe others on the forum will? If nothing else, I'm sure a few of us from the forum could meet you for a drink after work. :drunk: As far as carpooling, I would just get to know people at work and ask around with people you feel comfortable with. If there's some sort of "message board" posted in the cafeteria/common area, maybe print up a flyer? For other networking (and meeting people), I've heard good things about Cleveland's 20/30 Club - it's for professionals who are in their 20s and 30s - maybe check into that as well http://www.cleveland2030.com Another building to consider is the Perry-Payne building in the Warehouse District. It's very close to Tower City Center (one block west, whereas East 4th is one block east), and I've heard good things about it. http://www.landmarkmgt.com/perry-payne/

"How long would the commute be to work from there? Also what neighborhood is this or is it downtown?" The reason I suggested looking into carpooling is that with the buslines that go into the suburbs, it usually takes a little longer than traveling by car because they have to make stops along the way. However, according to RTA's schedule it looks like maybe a 35-40-minute trip? Not terrible, but if you carpooled directly from downtown to Brecksville, it would be a 15-20-minute trip. Again, taking the 77 line is probably going to be fine - but just so you're aware, and can pack an iPod or a book to read. For reference sake, the Lubrizol/Noveon looks like it's very close to the VA (Veterans Administration) Hospital at the corner of Brecksville and Miller Roads. On RTA's schedule for the #77 line, that would be stop "B". Again, as that area is sprawly office parks, you may want to politely ask the driver if they can drop you off close to the Lubrizol/Noveon entrance. Otherwise, you may have to walk through a few parking lots to get from the VA Hospital to your destination:

fullymooned, I'm pretty sure that the 77 busline will take you close to Lubrizol and as FrqntFlyr said, the East 4th Street area is a pretty happening area. It's also very close to Tower City Center which is the main transit hub of downtown. Do note that 9911 Brecksville Road is basically sprawly office parks and not much else. One thing you might want to look into when you start is to check if any carpooling options would be available. It's not common, but some people in Cleveland do a reverse commute from downtown/inner city to suburban workplaces. In the meantime, the 77 line should be adequate. Also, if you're in Cleveland for a while and find yourself needing a car for occasional trips (errands, etc.), consider looking into City Wheels. It's a car-sharing service much like ZipCar where you can have access to a car when you need it without the financial headaches. http://www.mycitywheels.com I found this site on Google - no idea if Cleveland's cricket club is what you're looking for but here it is: http://www.clevelandcricket.com/ I believe that soccer leagues are available through clevelandplays.com but don't quote me on that. By all means, let us know if you need more info :-) For the record, Brecksville is basically south of Cleveland - MyTwoSense is a tad provincial but we like him anyway ;-)