MayDay

The first pic is admittedly a little more "fashion-forward" which rarely ever means the traditional concept of "pretty". Here's something a little tamer and less Grace Jones-ish:

Here is the article (and photo) about the incidents in Kansas City: Violence returns with gunfire, beatings, arrests MATT CAMPBELL and CHRISTINE VENDEL The Kansas City Star The St. Patrick’s Day Parade was again marred by gunfire and violence Friday, two years after mayhem prompted efforts to impose more order. Shots were fired, and a family was brutally attacked by youths in a parking lot near 16th Street and Grand Boulevard. Police broke up at least 10 fights, tackled a gunman and nearly shot a juvenile who had a toy gun. They arrested two men for aggravated assault, one for narcotics possession, and one man for carrying a concealed weapon. In addition, seven persons were arrested for city violations. “I don’t recall anything like this last year,” said police Capt. Mark Francisco. “It seemed really rowdy. There was certainly more violence than you think you’d need at a parade.” In one attack Friday, a Kansas City Star employee and his family were kicked and beaten toward the end of the parade in one of the newspaper’s parking lots. A witness and Star security officials said one youth shot a gun into the air. The employee, 37, who works as a floor supervisor in the packaging and distribution department, attended the parade with his wife, three children and other relatives. He said a youth approached him and made a comment he did not understand. “The next thing I knew I had 10 to 15 guys on me,” he said. “My wife was on the ground getting (beat), too.” He said that his attackers included women, and that his 16-year-old daughter was hit in the stomach. The man had a gash on his head and was treated in a hospital for a possible concussion. The man has worked 20 years at The Star. He said this was the first time he was off work for St. Patrick’s Day. “That’s the last time my family goes to that parade,” he said. Eric Patton, head of safety and security for The Star, said the newspaper would review its security videotapes of the violence. Mary Nestel, lead organizer of the parade, said later she was shocked and upset to learn of the violence. Neither her staff nor the police had reported any serious incidents to her, she said. “We are doing something good for Kansas City, and that was a very family-focused event,” Nestel said. “It’s a shame that a bunch of kids, or whoever, ruined it.” Nestel said parade organizers and the police had invested money and effort into addressing the problems of two years ago. The parade now starts earlier than before, and the route has been shortened. The presence of police and liquor-control officers was beefed up. Police said they had about the same number of officers working this year as last year. They said that although more mayhem occurred Friday than last year, the problems were not as great as two years ago when two bystanders were shot and police nearly lost control of a crowd. That year they arrested 17 persons. Police speculated that violence might have escalated because the parade was on a Friday and because it started an hour later than last year. “I think we were adequately staffed,” said Capt. Rich Lockhart, police spokesman. “Every year, after the parade, we look at what we did and how everything went so we can make adjustments if necessary.” The first 40 minutes of Friday’s parade were uneventful for police, but as the clock ticked toward noon, trouble broke out. One of the first fights reported in the crowd occurred at 11:55 a.m. at 17th Street and Grand. Witnesses reported seeing a man with a gun leaving the scene. Police never found him. A steady stream of fights followed about every five or 10 minutes at different locations along Grand, mostly on the east side. At 12:30 p.m., police at 18th Street and Grand pulled a string of barricades out into the street to make more room for the crowd. “It was a choke point,” said Capt. Ron Fletcher, who worked the parade. “People were panicking.” About 15 minutes later, some parade-goers told police they heard gunshots on Grand between 17th and 18th. Police looked but did not find the man described as the shooter. Police did, however, arrest two men with guns at the parade. One man was carrying a weapon police described as a TEC-DC9, with a magazine containing 30 rounds. Another man allegedly pulled a revolver on a police officer, who tackled the gunman and disarmed him near 16th and Grand. After the parade ended, someone told police three youths were roaming with guns near 13th Street and Grand. Officers found the youths near 13th and Oak Street and stopped them. The officers drew their guns and told the youths to put their hands in the air. Two youths complied. A third youth stalled, with his hand in his pocket. The officers yelled at him to put his hands up, and he eventually did. The officers found a black air pistol in his pocket that looked like a real gun. “It had a working slide and everything,” said Fletcher. “If he had pulled his hand out with that gun in it, we would have shot him.” The youths were released to their parents.

That's Naima - named after John Coltrane's "Naima". She's the daughter of Francisco Mora - apparently a well-known jazz percussionist. You of all people on this board should appreciate that :-)

Please do - the updates weren't on cleveland.com (and they're normally up by Thursday afternoon).

^I agree about the Heart Center - although I'm not a huge fan of the design, it's already an impressive structure along Euclid, and of course the implications for Cleveland's future in medicine. As for the Art Museum, I don't think the new expansion will have a huge "wow" factor in and of itself, and I think that's okay. I might change my mind as the construction continues, but when I see the renderings, I see a really nice facility that's being enhanced (substantially) rather than something as visually jarring as say, when the Botanical Gardens added their Greenhouse. Given the museum's outstanding collection, it really doesn't need an eye-popping facility like other cities.

I've never taken Greyhound but from I understand, the worst part of it is that the bus will get off the highway in some podunk town that's on the route as a stop, and stop whether they need to do a pickup/drop-off or not. The idea of a non-stop express bus would have some appeal for me (though I always prefer to fly).

Yeah - keep it on the sports forum, guys - this about Naima and TYRA! :whip:

Although I agree people could have been a little more well-mannered, we should be grateful that we didn't have incidents like they did in Kansas City. Look at the photo - the cop is holding a LOADED Tec-9 gun that the kid was carrying and that's only the start... http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?p=1948721

I put that together years ago for the skyscraperpage.com forum (where as the first openly gay forumer, I became a Queen of the forum). Anyways, Maleficent (aka the Mistress of All Evil) is by far my favorite Disney character and she epitomizes everything I admire about an "evil Queen". Whenever someone would say or do something that rubbed me the wrong way, out came Maleficent. I figured why not add some Cleveland buildings to personalize the image? Some people have also suggested that she and I bear a striking resemblance (granted my skin isn't green but you get the idea).

"Reality TV." This is NOT "reality" TV. This has nothing to do with reality - it's about Tyra. It's about genetically freakish gals who make their way to the top. THIS is about YOANNA, dammit!

Without any warning or notification on their site, the pigf#ckers pre-empted 'America's Next Top Model' with the fricking Cavs game! Someone will PAY for this transgression!!! :whip: :shoot:

I'm assuming that other than the kitchen and bathroom, there's not much else to the place? As interesting as that is (I can definitely appreciate the appeal), when you consider that you could have a place like this for less than half of that? It's in walking distance to everything in Ohio City so it's not like we're talking some remote area, either: http://pure.progressiveurban.com/propview.php?view=1155

Recommendations for dining late (well, around 9ish) downtown that are locally owned/operated, and somewhat close to Tower City Center: Waterstreet Grille - http://www.pluggedincleveland.com/restaurants/2076+waterstreet+grill.html (Ignore the cranky review - there's no hype about Waterstreet; it's just pretty decent food in a casual setting; I think they were hoping for Johnny's Downtown). Pickwick and Frolic - http://www.pickwickandfrolic.com/aboutus.html Little Bar and Grill - Good bar food http://www.pluggedincleveland.com/restaurants/1930+the+little+bar+and+grille.html Fatfish Blue - http://www.pluggedincleveland.com/restaurants/652+fat+fish+blue.html

"Case has also requested that the Orchestra refer to Severance Hall as "Severance Hall on the Case Campus." If I were the Orchestra, I'd request that Case go f#ck themselves. How absolutely smug and pompous of them to even think they have any place to make that request. :x

"Peeeanut Buttttter Cuppp.... "

"I'd love to hear something more specific than "work cohesively with the neighborhood" - I mean what might that look like in practice?" This isn't the best example, but I've found these buildings in Columbus attractive (for what they are) and they bring their facades up to the street. No, they don't push the envelope, style-wise but given the proximity of the Masonic Auditorium, I don't think that's needed here. Something like this meeting the street, with structured parking hidden in mid-block of the structure would be nice. Instead, we have a super-futuristic building which by itself looks great but it's surrounded by swaths of asphalt that's completely fenced off.

"for number two lets see, swing bridge or hullet? ahh what the heck" That's actually the jackknife bridge, not the swing bridge. I'll nominate two interiors - both are absolutely breathtaking but each is a beautiful example of their period. Neither photo can do justice, but they give you the idea. The Arcade in Cleveland - Victorian: Palm Court in Cincinnati - Art Deco:

The "expert" for Cleveland suggested to someone that they check the observation deck at the Terminal Tower for a great view of the bridges. :roll:

Thank you - when I first started taking photos of downtown Cleveland (eek, it's been at least ten years), I would focus strictly on buildings as that's always been my first love. Over the years, I've tried to take "people" pics which are a lot more challenging. There have been a few photographers on skyscraperpage.com's forum who do an AMAZING job with people pics and it's only been recently that I've even tried. Now that I have a lens with a higher zoom, it should be a little easier :-)

I have to agree with ColDayMan's opinion (and this is ONLY my opinion) about OTR vs. Arlington in Akron, at least regarding the "feel" of each neighborhood. Back in the day, my ex lived with his grandmother on Talbot Avenue (off Arlington south of I-76). Sure, I stuck out like a sore thumb but I never felt like stepping out of the car for a minute would be a horrible idea (walking around taking in the sights is another story). When I visited my friends in Cincy a few years back and we went to Club Clau - we parked a block away and as others have pointed out - the criminal element is right there (or in our case, right across the street, making deals with other nightlifers walking to and fro). A lot of the perception has to do with the built environment (OTR is more dense and adjacent to the CBD, Arlington becomes quickly residential/mixed-use the further south you go.). I'd have to say the "worst" (again, only my opinion) areas I've personally visited in Cleveland are East 105th south of St. Clair, and Forest Avenue off East 116th - I've never been to places like Garden Valley and I don't think I'm missing out on anything :-)

"Who are you to "categorize" the people in attendance, based on the actions of a few??? If you thought the "teenage mother" was a danger to herself/child, did you do the right thing and call child protective services?? Instead of doing the right thing and looking out for the child welfare, you made a self righteous post here. " MyTwoSense honey - you need to lighten up a little and unclench the booty a little bit. I don't think peabody99 was declaring that all of Cleveland or all of humanity was nothing but Appalachian white trash, but simply making an observation based on the people she happened to see. Having walked around the parade route a bit, I have to agree with her assessment - and coming from Appalachia, I'm allowed to point it out when I see it. Not everyone fit the bill but I saw my share of people who have interesting tastes and levels of hygiene. Anyways, it was a lot of revelry that we don't see downtown and maybe it would be too much on a regular basis but it was nice to actually have to fight pedestrian traffic in downtown for once :wink:

"if you dont like my opinions shut up" You don't take that tone with me, ever. See the title "Administrator"? Enjoy your time off.

Erin go bragh and all that rot. I wasn't able to catch the whole parade but I got a good chunk of it. Enjoy these, taken about 3 hours ago. So I walk to Starbucks at Key Tower, and at 8:30am, I see this and I know it's gonna be one of those days: Interesting headgear: Oddly enough, I remember the orange-tanned girl on the right from last years photo thread: My "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" instinct was on overload - this was but a few people in need: Channel 5's chopper: The young "rainbow tribe" contingent: Kids growing on trees: Goooo Skyfox again! Dignitaries and sh!t: The arrow points out Mayor Frank Jackson: The firefighters - a personal favorite :-) Sigh... all the good ones are taken... For you gentlemen: For "my people" (a little young for my taste): Went to the Arcade for lunch - what a madhouse! Signing off from Ohio's tallest:

"A girl i know from Cincy works downtown at the University Hospital , And she said Cleveland is far worse than Cincinnati ." Oh well THAT'S definitely a scientific fact - I mean she works in downtown Cincy, so of course she's the resident expert on crime-ridden areas in Cleveland. :roll:

Oh for the love of all that's holy - it was most likely hot tar from an earlier roofing job that ignited some construction material. Fires happen, even without human intervention sometimes. These were the second row of the townhomes at Ashbury Towers and only the framework was up so the row burned rather quickly. The developer is Ameri-Con and I'm sure they'll rebuild. Save the conspiracy theories for another time.