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It's "Kent reed, Kent rite, Kent duck" you twit. :roll:

They've been using a telescopic crane rather than a tower crane. That's also how they built Stonebridge Tower. I'm guessing they can use the telescopic crane because the building is only 12 stories, and they're using that lighter-gauge steel that's been used in all of the Stonebridge buildings.

Sorry for the blurry pic, but here is an update of Stonebridge Plaza - photo was taken from a bus this morning (that needs new windows!):

I agree, X. I can't say that I'd be thrilled if Edgewater Park became known as a place for the homeless to get food. I think as others have said - the churches and social service agencies need to collaborate, and find an appropriate place to provide their services. And for the love of god, some of you people need to get a grip - no one has suggested that the homeless be rounded up and gassed. However, I think there is a better place for them (and groups that provide food for them) than Public Square. X makes a very important point that few have addressed - no one would dream of setting up a portable soup kitchen in Market Square in Ohio City, Huntington Beach in Bay Village, or along Lake Shore in Bratenahl. It's easy for those of you who don't have it next door to say there's nothing wrong with it.

"I have found that even though I have seen and experienced many things on a day to day basis...that somehow what I have seen is not factual." JDD - it's one thing to discuss personal experiences, it's another thing to say something so generalizing as the comments kevmr25 made. It's also another thing to suggest that some people actually do have relatively pleasant lives (gasp!) AND happen to live within the city limits. If someone's experienced some awful situations, they're welcome to share here. However, they are NOT welcome to suggest that their unfortunate reality is anyone else's but their own. Not everyone lives in a nasty hood and not everyone has had some god-awful experience with a creep on the bus. Your comments about RTA and public transit in Cleveland for the most part were direct but constructive, without saying "everyone on the bus is a creep/thug/punk/looney". See the difference? "If you dont think that it can be a little dangerous then you are simply naive and need to wake up." "thats not the world we live in and as much as that sucks, it is what it is." Life can be a little dangerous, kiddo - if you're really that worried, lock your doors, have your food delivered, and never leave your house :roll: Christ, if *I* can handle myself on the 6, 25, or even the dreaded 326, I'm sure that a lifelong transit user would be just fine. I'm not saying that taking a bus is a joyous event, but it's hardly a daily torture. By the way, I'm well aware that having a car for errands can be handy - but thanks to City Wheels Cleveland, I can have the access to a car without the hassle of ownership - it's something you might want to look into: http://www.citywheelscleveland.com/

Keep in mind that the recent Supreme Court ruling also gives the City a little more 'umph' when it comes to eminent domain. So, it may not take as long (should it go to ED proceedings) as previous cases would take.

"at least they don't sit in the car next to me and try to engage me in conversation. Not scared for my life, but a very real pet peeve!" Wait - you have a pet peeve about ranting lunatics and you come to THIS forum? :lol: Seriously, how often do the ranting lunatics do that to you? I've never had a ranting lunatic directly address me - the only time I've ever seen that was in NYC on the subway, when some guy was warning every passenger about the evils of sin (although he was quoting everything BUT the bible - yeah, I'm sure that Donald Duck was NOT one of the apostles). About the worst I've experienced in Cleveland was when I took the 6 from downtown to the Clinic. LaShaun (I know that because his girlfriend was on speakerphone) was having a yelling match with Keshia (I know because he was yelling back at her) about having to pick up diapers when he was on his way to "da club". The volume was pretty bad - but I figured it wasn't a good time to tell LaShaun to use his "inside voice".

As close as Berea is, I've never really been there (been through or near, but not BEEN) - looks pretty nifty, though I have to say that's the chintziest looking clocktower I've seen in a long time.

In all fairness, there are plenty of real nutjobs driving cars - I don't feel terribly safe around them. Now don't get me wrong, I've taken a few buses that haven't exactly been filled with the upper eschelons of society. I have never once felt threatened - other than my olefactory lobes, and it's not like I just blend right in on say, the 6 or the 326. If *I* don't feel threatened on those bus lines, c'mon - you've met me - I hardly project that intimidating street cred. I also had the foresight to do a little homework about my neighborhood before I moved there - I knew that some bus lines have a less than stellar rep, so I moved close to one that's known to be decent. Of the people I see everyday on the 55, I'd say 75% are office professionals, 15% are blue-collar, 10% are students, 5% are elderly/retired, and once in a blue moon, you just might see someone who obviously has had better days. Is the riff-raff quotient higher on other buslines? I'm sure it probably is - but it's not like driving a single-occupancy-vehicle keeps you safe from nutjobs. My point is that all kinds of people ride the bus/train, and ignoramuses who say "ohhh, you know the kind of people who ride the bus" could only be so lucky to have a decently dressed (and tastefully fragranced) 'mo such as myself sit next to them.

Chef Hector Boiardi started his career in the Hotel Winton on Prospect Avenue. It's now the Carter Manor Hotel: It's currently under renovation by DAS Construction, working on behalf of the Ferchill Group: http://www.dasconstruction.com/projectsunder/cma.htm http://www.ferchillgroup.com/news/?nid=10 The building was previously owned by Harvey Oppmann - the man who used to own the Old Arcade. And NO, I'm not old enough to remember Chef Boiardi or the restaurant, thankyouverymuch!

Funny you should mention it - from newsnet5.com: ODOT Project Will Reroute Traffic At I-77, I-480 Repairs Part Of State's $5 Billion Jobs, Progress Program POSTED: 12:52 pm EST March 7, 2006 CLEVELAND -- The orange barrel season is approaching again, and the Ohio Department of Transportation is mapping out its reconstruction plans for the spring, summer and fall, The latest projects are part of the state's 10-year, $5 billion Jobs and Progress Program. More at cleveland.com http://www.cleveland.com

"The fact of the matter is that the car is King in america period, face it fokes, but we all could us the transit more often," Maybe we could take a remedial English class or two while we're at it. "the car provides so much more convinience to its users." It also provides pollution, danger to pedestrians, congestion, etc. along with expenses (fuel, maintenance, insurance). "You have to wait for a bus, and dont miss it, thats 15-30 minutes in the cold." Go to www.riderta.com - find your bus route and schedule. It's amazing, you can actually find out when your bus should arrive, instead of waiting out in the frigid cold. "i use the 326 every day" My condolences. "you get on a crowded bus with GOD KNOWS WHO!" Up yours. I'm sorry but who are you to judge? Do you have any idea how ignorant that remark is?

Just a pic for sh!ts and giggles:

Unfortunately the most effective way to present a argument would be to show photos of the glorious neighborhood itself (Abbey Market, the homes which resemble Appalachian squalor that I haven't seen since I left Appalachia, etc.), which you couldn't really do in a letter to the editor.

So I took the new camera (Minolta Z6) for her first true test-run on the 21st floor of my office building. Gotta say I'm looking forward to warmer weather so I can go to town :-) Tower at Erieview: CSU and University Circle in one shot: Cleveland Clinic (the crane is for the new Heart Center): ... and Case and University Hospitals: The Gehry building, the Garfield Monument: The ill-conceived fortress that is the FBI building: Galleria Galleria! Galleria let me go..... (sorry for the awful pun on 'Bohemian Rhapsody'): Tip of One Cleveland Center: Power plants and Bratenahl - ain't that a kick in the rubber parts? Cuyahoga County Courthouse in the foreground - Lakewood's Gold Coast in the background: The 5 Mile Crib - so named because it is located 5 miles from the Kirtland Water Treatment Plant (not because it's 5 miles offshore): A look south on East Ninth Street: Chisel! These people run the lives of Tiger and Tyra: Nice building - stupid name: Tremont! Grit! Neoclassic and stuff! Look out above!!!

"I'm nice! Honestly!!!" Riiiight... and I'm more hood than Young Jeezy. :roll:

I do think that the owner of Morgan Services has a point but the residents are making much ado about nothing. God forbid their little slice of urban meadow heaven be developed. Yes, let's preserve the beautiful ambiance of such lovely places like the Abbey Market :roll:

The camera I have has Minolta's Anti-Shake (image stabilization) technology, so the distance shots aren't quite as problematic. I haven't had time to try different lighting yet.

The Halle Brothers department store was also considered in the same leagues as Saks Fifth Avenue and Bergdorf Goodman in the heyday of Euclid Avenue retail. KJP, I've led quite a few walking tours which were attended by plenty of people who were in Cleveland for the first time. On several occasions, many of them piped up and asked "isn't that the store from the Drew Carey show?". It's a landmark.

Here's another set of pics - they'd be clearer if 1. the windows were washed, and 2. if it was later in the day (the sun washed them out a little). But you get the idea: Note the building under the arrow - that's the high-rise tower in the second pic :-)

"Downtown Cleveland needs to face the fact that indoor malls are obsolete." I think they still have their place ;-)

Yep, it's the equivalent of 420mm.

Sorry guys - no luck on the lottery, but the Z6 arrived today. I think I'm going to have fun with the 12x optical zoom (with image stabilization - my old camera was 4x). Unfortunately the weather isn't the best for taking pics, but you get the idea. No zoom: Gooooo 12x! :-)

"I would assume the other one is the key tower. What other buildings do you think are class A? I've heard that class determinations can be subjective, so maybe the Times is wrong." That article was full of inaccuracies, which I pointed out when it was first posted on this forum. The author was a former editor of Cleveland's Free Times and was the quintessential "disgruntled Cleveland native". Thus, when she wrote the article for the Times, she had no real impetus to get her facts straight - after all, if she found out that Cleveland wasn't as bad as she tried to portray it she might have to change her tune. The original post is at http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?topic=5353.0 The following buildings are listed as Class A office space with CB Richard Ellis. Mind you, they're just one of a handful of real estate service bureaus that handle Class A space so there are a few more that aren't in this list - One Cleveland Center, Eaton Center, Chase Office Tower, Skylight Office Tower, and the Penton Media Building. It took me two minutes to search on CB Richard Ellis's site to find that information. Also, please read the pope's message about how Class A office space is defined.

"I'm glad office space is included in the project, the lack of class A office space downtown will make it difficult to attract/retain tenants. Right now, I think the key building is the only class A building." That's incorrect. There are about a half-dozen class A office buildings.