MayDay

Woohoo! Go Tribe! Go Buckeyes! Go Bengals! Woooo!!! Hey, at least I tried! :lol:

KJP, if I recall correctly, there was a rendering in one of Corwin Thomas' columns in the PD for the Euclid/Ford project. It was approx. 12-14 stories high with what looked to be a brick-like facade with a cylindrical corner 'tower' of glass as an accent on the southeasternmost point. Darned if I can remember when it was printed, though - I'll do some digging.

^Yeah, I wish they'd have local moderators so they could weed out the trolls. Ah well, that's just more opportunity to send people to better sites (i.e. urbanohio).

Hey now, cut me some slack :D I had a hard time snapping those pics from a moving bus!

Well, those bars are aluminum and one thing I learned as a jewelry/metalsmithing major at Kent was that aluminum is amazingly flexible. So, I bent those sons of b!tches enough to slide my camera through, angled the camera and snapped away :D

Updated pics from 8/18/04:

Recent updates to Stonebridge, Phase III: Topped out a while ago, they've added some signage advertising the condos. View from the West Shoreway (Rte. 2): View from Columbus Road, under the RTA Rapid bridge: View from Detroit-Superior Bridge, showing the addition of a pedestrian promenade and bike lanes beyond the orange barrels: Yep, these folks are going to have sweet views of downtown: And for good measure, the view of Stonebridge from the East Bank of the Flats:

I think on the aesthetic level that this will be one of those 'wait and see' projects. The renderings look so-so but they could end up much better in reality. In theory it sounds great and in the grand scheme I think areas like downtown, Ohio City, Tremont, etc. have historic buildings in abundance so adding some ultra-modern pockets could really jazz things up a bit. The area in question isn't really conducive to things like front-stoop patios/gardens nor ground level retail (that's better suited for 3 blocks east on West 25th). It's like others have said about Tillman Park (the green, yellow and pink townhomes) 'it's not very 'Cleveland', to which I say "that's the point" :D ps - zaceman, glad to see you follow cleveland.com forums as well ;)

"Thanks. Now I understand why your forum name is "mayday"!" Slightly off-topic but my forum name is derived from my birthday (May 1st, or May Day). Back on topic, I'd love to see the rendering you posted actually come to fruition at Hopkins- that looks incredible!

^I suppose it isn't *that* bad, it's just my habitual scowling at the notion of Cleveland not having the state's 3 tallest :D

Interesting to see the responses of architects to inquiries like yours. RTKL send me pdfs of Cleveland's Bank One Center and the Wyndham Hotel, Cesar Pelli emailed a bunch of text info... the local architecture firms? Zilch. Not even a courtesy reply. And if QCS is over 900 ft., I'll personally lop off that silly 'tiara' and knock it down to size! :twisted:

Actually, I'm glad you're on your soapbox - as someone who has voluntarily been car-free in Cleveland for almost 2 years now, I wish our transit system was 1. funded properly and 2. managed/operated properly. It's good to hear the facts and information from someone in the know, so please soapbox away! :D And if I recall correctly, wasn't Cleveland the first airport-to-CBD transit line in not only the country but the western hemisphere?

I didn't see any mention of the Virgin Megastore that was discussed in another thread but who knows - maybe this will help lure such a retailer? From crainscleveland.com House of Blues progresses By STAN BULLARD An 1,100-seat music hall with a stage and upper-level mezzanine is taking shape inside the former Woolworth store at 318 Euclid Ave. as the House of Blues Cleveland readies for a November opening. For more info, click the link

Here's a pic of the church in question - I can't imagine why it's taken so long considering this church is the landmark of the most affluent neighborhood in Cleveland which abuts the most densely populated area in the state. It's good to hear that Marous is involved with the process - they have a pretty good track record so far. Thank god it's finally happening - it would be nice to have a good bookstore in walking distance from my place! Developers to try again to redevelop church Wednesday, August 18, 2004 Donna Iacoboni Plain Dealer Reporter The domed church on Lake Avenue, a historic landmark at Cleveland's border with Lakewood, has become a massive bird house. A hole in the roof of the former Fifth Church of Christ, Scientist is letting rain and pigeons inside. It's impossible to walk through the building now without stepping on broken pigeon eggs or plaster that has crumbled off the walls. More at cleveland.com

No apologies needed, rob - I understood your post clearly. :) The term 'railfan' makes people think of some goofy guy who dresses up as an locomotive engineer (with cap of course). That wouldn't apply to people like you and KJP who are much more involved.

Wow, you guys are a sensitive bunch! I mean, I'm happy to be called an architecture/skyscraper/urban geek... but then again, that doesn't roll off the tongue easily, does it? rob - replace something architecture-related with the rails in your description and you've described quite a few people on this forum :shock: :lol:

Updated photo from August 6th, 2004 - already at 6 stories in addition to the parking deck making for quite an impact on the Lakeside streetscape:

Don't worry Monte - in the case of an airport *I* want to be the source of style and the *surroundings* to be functional :lol:

^I'm the total opposite - I want to get through the airport and on the plane as quickly as possible. Unless you have a layover, why would anyone want to linger at an airport? Pittsburgh's is beautiful (at least it was the last time I was there) with all the shops but um, I reserve my shopping for the destination, not the airport.

Here's a much earlier (long before restoration work started) photo of the red-brick building. Folks, this is why Cleveland is a leader in restoration of architecturally significant buildings:

^I have to agree - it's definitely not the most attractive airport. I will say that although it's ugly, it's pretty functional and easy to get in/out from my experience. Of course, nothing is as easy as flying out of Akron/Canton.

Yep, that would be Hopkins International - that's the Ford plant in Brookpark that you saw. As far as the signage - that would be like saying "Lake Erie" - it's "the Lake". When you say 'the airport', no one thinks about Burke Lakefront or the Cuyahoga County airport. Maybe we don't need such detailed explanations up here above the Mason-Dixon line? ;)

rich, I hear what you're saying but I think in the case of Hopkins, it's more of a 'keeping up with the Joneses' (but that's a good thing). I don't know that CLE will see a huge influx of new carriers because of the expansion but the fact that Akron-Canton is eating Hopkins for lunch on the small regional flights (Airtran gets you to most of the east coast and Chicago in under an hour and for around $150 round-trip) - CLE needs to at least maintain what they have. As far as the NIMBYs in sprawl-topia? Screw 'em! :crack:

"I just wish we had a resident railfan...much like Broad&HighCMH at SSP with aviation (he studies it)." I believe KJP has stepped up to the plate - welcome to the forum, KJP!

"They have to walk a fine line. Make it too dark and too real, and people will not go. Make it too tame, and people will be insulted." While I agree, I have to wonder about the Holocaust Museum in D.C. - I haven't been but I've heard that some of the exhibits are quite graphic in detailing the events. nsc, you're right - but some of us oddballs prefer martinis and sidewalks to mai tais and sandy beaches :crazy: