MayDay

Barneyboy, thanks for posting all of those - quite a few I've never seen!

From yesterday:

Forgot that I have these from the Civic Vision Plan 2000:

I'm pretty sure that building was slated for the north side of Superior, between West 3rd and West 6th aka the big parking lots. It wouldn't have taken up the whole site but it would have filled in a gap.

Along with protesting a skywalk being rammed into the Higbee Building, I think the City Beautiful group, along with the existing stakeholders and residents of the area should be raising hell that Cudell would even consider such dreck. One story retail with gratuitous surface parking? Shame on them!

Actually I don't know if that's been mentioned but I agree, it could use some spiffying up.

"... cities like Cleveland are not eager to attract immigrants to grow the economy and population ..." That would be news to the people running Global Cleveland: http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2012/11/global_cleveland_draws_new_lea.html http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2011/04/welcome_center_opens_arms_to_n.html http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2012/01/cleveland_international_welcom.html

Great pic!

Ameritrust Center (cancelled in 1991): Model of Progressive Tower: Rendering for unbuilt project at East 9th and Euclid (current site of Schofield Building and City Club): Model for North Point Complex: Rendering for Ohio World Trade Center (West 6th and St. Clair):

For some reason, I never saw the videos they have available - the following is fascinating for a multitude of reasons http://flash.ulib.csuohio.edu/library/montage/still-yesterday.html

Folks, let's save the rumors for another forum :-)

Nice set!

"These are not just young people, there is also a subset of 30 and 40 somethings at the top of their game that don't want it either ..." It's a generational thing - a lot of Gen X and Gen Y grew up with parents who admirably and with good intentions, busted their rears for their kids but at the expense of the time they had to spend with them. Whether we're talking a blue-collar worker taking all the overtime they can get, or the white-collar suburbanite who endures an absurd commute - a lot of the under 40ish crowd realized just how valuable their time was outside of work. Count me in as a 40something - I started my career renting in Hudson, working in office park settings in Stow and Hudson, then got a job in downtown Cleveland and made that commute everyday for six months. On the weekends, I could make that trip in 30ish to 40ish minutes but during the weekday, I was easily and inexplicably spending well over an hour each way because the people who shared the same route had no retention of the traffic nuances and patterns. Around month six of that commute, I crashed at a co-worker's place in Lakewood for a few days - and that's when it hit me; instead of waking up at 5:30am and the 'MUST be on the road by 6:15am or else!!!', I woke up at 7am, took my time getting ready, and still got to work about ten minutes earlier than usual and not p!ssed off because of the idiots on the usual commute. Then, instead of getting home around 6:30 and aggravated and drained by the commute home, I was back to my co-worker's place by 5:30 and had time to chill out and energy to enjoy my free time. As time marches on, I'm realizing that I'm not the only one who sees things this way.

Okay folks, there's been some productive discussion but we're veering off the original topic. A thread in Ohio Business and Economy section has been created; please continue the 'downtown/suburban HQ discussion' there. http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,28049.0.html Thanks!

For what it's worth:

Nice job - I like this view, don't think we've seen it too much:

It goes both ways, if people don't submit proper paperwork, the city is required to send it back. If they didn't, then they'd criticized for not being thorough enough.

^I'd first suggest looking through the construction threads - you'll find new developments are happening in just about all the neighborhoods you reference. Regarding Tremont, when you say there's not enough places to live? Do you mean apartments, $250K+ new construction townhomes, or places east of I-71 and north of I-490 (fyi, Tremont encompasses more than that area)?

^Completely different product, tax abatements, etc.

Nice thread - yeah, Eton Collection's layout is contemptible and repugnant but Chagrin Falls is about as charming as it gets.

^God forbid there's ever a fire - the smoke from a fire involving EIFS produces seriously toxic fumes.

^Holy f#ck!!!

I'm not asthmatic, but after driving the Main Avenue bridge this evening, I was full-on hyperventilating.

^Yep, glad everyone braved the weather and made it; and hey, the Browns won! :)

Aw shucks - maybe next time!