Steele05

I dont see how building a rail road would greatly enhance the lure of visitors to this resort or how it could be built without decreasing in value of the land-at the mouth of the interchange-for future development. Route 58 already has and over pass at the turpike and an under pass (a half mile north) which the Norfolk/Southern RR runs under.... it doesnt need another... all it would do it give the area a chopped up feel with little to no continuity. LOL.. but all this is just a thought... its never even been proposed.. hopefully it stays that way. I doubt this rail would even provide access from the Airport to Amherst in any less time than it would to drive the 4 exits down the Turnpike...it will only be a 15 minute drive.

Easton is a VERY nice place but i believe from what i see now at Crocker Park and what i know is on the way (additional stores, restraunts, residences, and office space) that Crocker Park is by far the best mall in Ohio! The way this is set up as a small town enviornment is just amazing. With the christmas tree and lights, ice skating rink, life-sized checker boards its something special. Just my thought though, i strongly reccomend everyone give it a visit (especially this holiday season), you wont be dissapointed!!

This place is AWESOME!! Best mall in Ohio for sure. every store you could ever want and so close to home!

thats another good idea..you seem to be full of them..lol dotted line is KJPs thought... http://amhersttownship.us/newsletter0409.htm pics of otp interchange (scroll down to bottom of page) that option does seem to be better if it werent for the new turpike interchange. Once that comes in and the traffic comes with it youll have a ... railroad crossing.. turnpike interchange...entrance to resort...tons of traffic... all within a few hundred feet!! lol.. seems like a traffic nightmare. But actally there was a battle between the Ohio Turnpike and the owners of that RR. They said the turnpike interchange would destroy and chances of one day building that RR (one of the many reasons the interchange took 10 years to get built). They settled and the RR and ramp would now be adjacent to one another.. hopefully it never happens. As far as the first option goes i think the developers... A) dont care, or B)dont know because the plans show that land devoted to the golf coarse. OR Maybe.. C) it could be underground. lol. BUT seriously if you look closely at the central intersection on the resort map( where the circle this is) you can see and new road running perpendicular to the N/S road(quarry), but the road dissapears after a few feet....could it be going underground??? to something possibly a trian station????who knows but its something to think about. PS. theres always the Lorain County Airport, which is only about 2 or 3 miles away...(would be great for private jets)

Quarry History @ http://www.amhersthistorical.org/ click on quarries also.. the land that would be needed to complete the RR spur is owned by or runs directly through the Amherst Historical Society property... the land contains several historical buildings... http://www.amhersthistorical.org/ click on historical sites

very good idea.... i think i can picture of what you mean.. im asuming the norfolk/southern is the railroad i labeled.. if you mean the spur would conncect to this railroad, if so i can see your point and how that is possible... but i do see a few small streets that would be in the way of the rail spur though. Also it would be in the backyards of 500,000 dollar plus homes. but is possible i guess... lots of people would be angry would be very convienent for international travelers Anyways heres a another map... hope it helps.

cool picture!! almost every mall in america has palm trees under windows in the roof though. i wonder if any other quarries have been capped off with a retractable roof into anything close to a "carribean style beach" with simulated ocean and waves.... it would be awesome. thats if they could pull it off. that in itself would be a huge draw HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!!

If thats all they wanted to do why would they want to put it on a piece of land that costs 20 something million dollars. They could put such a project anywhere. Two words..WONT HAPPEN if this company is for real theyll do what they say.. or at least close to it my guess is the seven stars thing was an exaggeration. but who knows they might create a new category..lol

from, Amherst News-Times (7-24-04) Quarry capitalists want to foot public bill Trans European will pay for roads, security forces, and new fire station costs AMHERST- At this rate the developers of a $1 billion leisure reort at the vacated Cleveland Quarries may run out of good feet to put forward. Trans European Securities International spokesperson Neil Pike did not cross "the pond" from England to attend a special rezoning meeting in South Amherst last Wednessday night, but he managed to wave a proverbial carrot under community leaders noses by proxy. Consenting to requests to change the 917-acre golf, retail, high-end reidential, and tourist destination's working name from Beaver Lodges to Cleveland Quarries (to preserve the property's historical context), project heads also unveiled new schematics showing a sweeping, grandiose skyline dominating the Amherst area horizon.

SEE MY FIRST POST FOR MORE PICTURES 1. Ecology zone: Enviornmentally friendly with nature trails, woodland trails, a sculpture park, wetlands and an ecological and wildlife support facility. 2. Sports zone: Equestrian center, national indoor tennis facility, health and fitness facilities, ski slopes, ice skating, rock climbing, archery and water sports. 3. Golf Hub: A world-class championship course, golf academy, country club, media center, driving range, high-rise residences, security and surviellance, restraunts and bars, retail, worship facilities, health care, comminuty transport, and kindergarten and primary education. 4. Residential zone: High-rise, medium-rise and low-rise residences. 5. Hotel and conference zone: 500-bed luxury hotel with restraunts and function suite, additional hotels and convention center. 6. Leisure and recreation zone: Theatres, cinemas, preforming arts facilities, retail, health and fitness facilities, enclosed beach facilities with a retractable roof and water park. 7. Commercial zone: High-and medium rise offices, business park, science park, research center and communications center. 8. Heritage and conservancy: Trail and information centers to conserve and enhance the history of the quarry and quarring.

one of the articles talks about how an the construction of an asphalt plant nearby might stop this from going through. I dont thnk.. this company anyways.. would ever build a resort like this in an industial town like cleveland. it would great for the city though. btw.. I doubt anyone in Amherst tried to steer this our way.. its the developers decision not the city's or township's. P.S.- there are no cows in Amherst

If downtown had the worlds largest sandstone quarries and had 900 acres of vacant land... im sure it would go downtown. lol

I had the same thought about the Casino. Sounds like they want to build everything else.. the law is the only thing stopping them.

MayDay, although I do see where you are comming from in most of your concerns, I also thnk your taking some of the quotes it too literally. First of all, this is a European company. In Europe there may be seven star hotels, i dont know, but it seems to me they are just trying to make a point that these will be very high class facilities. Also the comment about attracting visitors from 100 miles away was most likely a mistake(lol.. what decent attraction doesnt...high school football games can attract people from further)... since then, the company has corrected itself in saying this will attract world-wide attention and world-wide visitors... Chronicle Telegram 11-19-04: "Trans European Securities is not panning to attract all of its residents from Lorain County," Twinning said, adding that residential property would be "marketed to residential property owners in the eastern U.S. and worldwide" Also to say that Amherst is too far removed from Cleveland.. not necessarly. Hopkins airport will only be a 20 minute drive once the new turnpike interchange opens on SR 58 in a few days. Cleveland has always only been 30 minutes away, also Lorain County airport is about 5 minutes away. All thats not to mention, the close proximity to Cedar Point, Put-in-Bay, and all the other Sandusky area attractions.But by the looks of this proposal.. the quarry site itself would have most of the same ammenites downtown has to offer.. probably more! With all the attractions proposed at this site, what company wouldnt want to locate there!! Big companies build BIG projects like this all the time... why should we be so concerned about this one not having adequate funding. anyways this all this is just a proposal.. Rough Draft.. the final product will likely look much diffrent.

Thanks for all the help guys.. and yes i am steele 05 just forgot to sign on..lol

What do you mean this maybe be a little too much?? Also, this company has built similar resorts throughout Eroupe and Asia and has been "searching the globe for a site as perfect as the Amherst quarries," (according to a newspaper article a few weeks ago) to build their next one. Why would they all in a sudden not be able to afford this one? Why would a company be investing so much time into this and not be serious? Nearly once a week new information is provided, and most of those weeks a representative from the company flys here from London to answer questions. Of coarse anything is possible but just because they havent formally come out and said this is how much money we have doesnt mean anything.

yea it is sad to see Lorain's lakefront in such poor shape. Im not aware of any clean up projects, they did expand Lakeview Park a few years back, and a nice townhouse development with private docks is going in. Maybe the start of a turn around for Lorain. I think for now though they need to concentrate funds more towards keeping emergency workers employed than the lakefront.

Actually, the majority of the resort would be located in Amherst TOWNSHIP (city of Amherst is located a quarter mile north or so). The township (pop. 7372) is mostly rural, while the city of Amherst (pop. 15500) is nearly fully developed into upscale subdivisions and shopping centers. Cities with populations of 50000+ like Lorain and Elyria both border the towns. The area is about 25-30 miles west of downtown Cleveland. There is an I-90 interchange in Amherst and an Ohio Turnpike interchange, less than a mile from the quarries, will open in the township in a week or so. The hope is to create an access road connecting the entrance of the Cleveland Quarry Project directly to the mouth of the new interchange. Already several other major developers have rumored about building shopping centers, offices and housing in the area with two large hotels already proposed, I believe.

True. Although anyone willing to spend over a BILLION dollars on a project and who has built other similar projects (although this is the largest) throughout Europe must be confident that it will succed. I think they know what they are doing. Also.. this would (in my opinion) be the largest tourist attraction in the state and if not one of the top in the country!!! What do you guys think???

The company said it would be "marketed to residential property owners in the eastern US and worldwide." Also i guess it will have its own private schools, police, hospital, and a fire station to handle 25 story high rises. UNBELIEVEABLE!!! lol... it would double no wait triple the population of Amherst

from, Morning Journal (11-18-04) Quarry resort has new name, added plans AMHERST -- The first definitive look at a proposed $1 billion golf course and leisure resort planned for the Cleveland Quarries site was offered at a community meeting last night, as was a new name for the project. Representatives from the British-based consortium proposing the project did not attend the meeting at South Amherst Middle School, but the plans showed that Trans European Securities LLP wants to create 750,000 square feet of mixed-use retail, a 50,000-square-foot conference center, and approximately 5 million square feet of office and commercial facilities at the site.