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I'm surprised to hear Mallory complain about getting rid of the projects. It's not like they had been working for the past 40 years. As for the bigger issue, while I don't agree with the timing or lack of tact, I don't see anything wrong with having a low income piece in The Banks, the whole idea is to blend things in. Poor people aren't inherently bad people, do it under the radar, who needs to know how much their neighbor makes? I don't see section 8 as a necessity in The Banks and certainly not in the first phase. We've still got plenty of time to hash out how it could work. Boo political posturing.

Is it the city that's responsible for all of that?

Isn't this what they're thinking for the Eastern Corridor? And I'd like a Support the Streetcar bumper sticker

Exactly my point, and true, Rando should be the creepy uncle I don't think there was anything pseudo-intellectual or pretentious about my posts, I thought one thing, ColDayMan thought another, both of us got out of line with the way we handled the discourse. I'm not an arrogant person but expect respect on both sides when having a conversation, even if I'm still a lowly surface lot. We should take bets on the number of years before the beginning of construction of the decks on FWW. I call 13

Can I at least be the creepy uncle?

Like we've both said, difference of opinion and that's cool. I took a cheap shot at you, you take one back at me. I was ready to end this the first time I said we had a difference of opinion which was during a very civil stating of my opinion which you decided to come back at with lots of cute little ""s and things. I hope your "next." was a decision to move past this and not some pat on the back for how well you put me in my place. Because I could turn around and break down each comment you said and we could perpetuate this on and on and on, but hopefully you're as tired of the argument as I am, and we can all be one big happy city loving family again. The kids don't like it when mommy and daddy fight. I get to be daddy.

Somebody with a Nightmare Before Christmas icon sure has his panties in a bunch. I find it laughable that at first you don't acknowledge the existence of high end retail on the cap and then say it's there but you don't see a problem with it. Further still, you failed to recognize the context of the problem presented, that of filling your grass roots art district with high end retail. I already said that the historical connection does add a new dimension to the architecture but that doesn't mean that it fits in well with the surroundings. Just because something is old (or wants to look old) doesn't mean that it is inherently good. The CAC certainly fits into the landscape of 6th & Walnut, though it is modern architecture, the materials used and scale of the building works into the surroundings, even before considering the fact that it was built long before the flying car. (But this is all besides the point) To appease Rando, and bring it all back home, the types of shops/restaurants on the 670 cap may work really well a decade or so from now over FWW. And I will fully endorse them if they do, because The Banks isn't going to be some grass roots neighborhood, it is going to be a destination/vacation/tourist spot. I'm ready for my ESPNZone, but would rather it be a Bootsy's Bengals and Funk Emporium.

^ Yes! What happened with that anyway?

I recall some sort of nice steak house and at least one designer clothing store, but its been a couple years since I stopped by. I'm not sold on the transitioning since the architecture fits neither the convention center or short north, difference of opinion i suppose

I really like the capping of High Street but think that both the structure and the businesses seem out of place, it being more of an extension of the Short North than downtown. It is cool to learn the reason for the architecture but it still seems a bit jarring from the brick of the Short North and I've never understood why there is so much high end retail in what was (from my understanding historically) a sort of artists enclave. I can't imagine how disconnected things used to feel since I still feel a very real seperation between the Short North and downtown (I'm not from Columbus so I apologize if I have neighborhood boundaries wrong)

I can see the elevator working depending on how they organize the bar/dining/museum aspects of the space, but I agree with Rando about the sidewalks, aren't they like half that size? That may limit that nice 2nd floor balcony in the rendering. I always thought Bootsy should open a sports/music place at the Banks since he's the Bengals' theme song guy these days but I'll still count this as an accurate prediction. I should be congratulated.

Hey, they're welcome to those ideas. We just need to make sure that WE take our good ideas as well. True, true... but if those bastards from Cleveland think they can steal our ideas.... I kid.

Thanks, I hope you don't think less of me as planner since I'll never cut it as a speller

While I understand the reasons for tearing down these homes to build the high end condos which will inevitibly get built, I agree that tearing down these homes is a bummer. The East End is filled with such an ecletic, beautiful (albeit rundown) housing stock and it's unfortunate that a real neighborhood isn't going to be reestablished (if it's anything like the other new developments along Eastern Ave) where these old homes could be restored and reinvented into something special. So it goes...

I have ulterior motives [thesis]

Agreed! But I hope by the time they're actually going to be able to build anything the demand has already been created by all the activity with the Banks and streetcars. As long as Scripps and W&S keep their sight lines everyone should be happy. I remember about 5 or 6 years ago a lady who makes cutesy animal sculptures at a studio in the Short North told me that Columbus had been impressed with the idea of Cincinnati capping their highway and so that's what they were going to do. Sure enough theres a strip of retail along High Street that spans 670. We should stop letting them take our good ideas. cough*streetcar*cough

oh geez. I love how all ohio metros do this. In Cleveland, I have heard Brunstucky. In C-Bus, Grovetucky. Now this. In Cincy, we simply say, Kentucky. But you're forgetting in Cincy we are only a short drive from Hamiltucky.

Has anyone checked this out yet?

there goes my summer trip to jackson.

i do too, whoever rambled on before you about the findlay market line is an idiot

I like the naming idea, especially the Findlay Market idea. Instead of calling the entire system the Findlay Market Streetcar, why not just call the first loop the Findlay Market Line. The Uptown extension could be something else like, well, the Uptown Line. Not terribly creative, but my point is that as others have mentioned happening in other cities, naming a line, or selling naming rights to a line, as opposed to the entire system seems like the best idea to me. And with I think 8 posts now to my name, you should listen to me and stop all further discussion.

Maybe this isn't the place to complain about Cincinnati developers, just sayin...

I'm curious if anyone knows the answer, but am too lazy to look it up on my own... What sort of tax dollars/revenues from CVG come to Cincinnati/Hamilton County? I can't imagine that airport being built in Ky without some revenue sharing scheme between Ky and Oh. I know the airport is considered a big asset to business in the city since it is a hub, but are its benefits entirely indirect, encouraging business growth but providing no real revenues to the city it supports?

anyone know the answer to this?

A fairly even handed, if not prostreetcar, article from the enquirer, they even saved the more negative title for the sub heading! A step toward streetcar money But opponents on council raise possibility of referendum BY MARGARET A. MCGURK | [email protected] Pro-streetcar City Council members won a victory Monday by approving preliminary steps to get federal money for service to Uptown. Opponents at the same time raised the prospect of a referendum that could kill the city's streetcar plan.