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Maybe Gilbert and co. didn't honestly expect in their wildest dreams to have gotten away with this legislated monopoly that easily... I voted for it though. haha

I was at the crazy horse on miles last night, I asked about the promo and they said they hadn't heard of it and would not take me on my word that I would donate in exchange for free dances... worth a try.

Maybe you guys should include a collaboration with CSU or Case in biology studies... kind of like the Rock Hall has that new building on the CSU campus, cross brand the sucker and make it a true learning/lab enviroment... might be easier to get funding from the feds if you include that. Just an idea.

This is a ridiculous statement. For what purposes would the vast majority of people go outside of their neighborhoods (or even homes) between the hours of about midnight and 5am? Why is it ridiculous? A neighborhood's safety is not limited to only certain hours of the day. Your contention was you work in that area and that during your time there (which I assume is ~9-5), it has been safe. My contention is that yeah, it's safe if you're there in the middle of the day when more people are around (and more people aren't high/drunk). But if you were to live there, would you also feel safe? Are you suggesting it is simply a run down, poor section of town with low crime? The Black Swan theory at it's finest. EDIT: click on each of the icons in the crime report you posted and see when most of the crimes occurred. I agree, I can come home wasted and take my dog for a walk around Shaker and not think twice (obviously I don't live by the square where Mr. McDermout was jumped by those thugs, now marinating in prison) about walking around. I wouldn't do that in many areas of Cleveland and some suburbs. (even some parts of my own)

I can agree with that sentiment, it would be interesting to see how the river valley and lake front looked prior to Moses Cleveland. Those bulkheads/retaining walls along the river are not exactly au-natural.

"Let's make a distinction that Garden Valley extends from approximately East 66th to East 84th along Kinsman. Same with the Forgotten Triangle. Your properties are within another neighborhood, I believe Mt. Pleasant." Touche, you are correct.

To be fair, I do not have any stats to back this up and I am not familiar with the West side so you have a point. I'm just supplying my 2 cents.

This is your PERCEPTION. The Kinsman and Central area is where I've spent probably the second most time in next to my home neighborhood over the last five years. I haven't had a single issue, nor has anyone with whom I work. I think it'd be good to distinguish fact vs perception here (maybe even add "perceived" to the thread title unless cold, hard facts/data are to be posted. Wrong, I own three properties in the Kinsman area, and have been working on them myself along with three other gentleman. One on E. 145th and Kinsman, 71st and Harvard and one on E 112th between Kinsman and Union. I have spent more time there in the past 10 months than my own home. I see junkies walking up and down the street, the one house on E. 145th got broken into and had the sinks and counter tops jacked along with a tool set. The house on 71st had tin foil in the garage every other day or so with heroin residue... were not all ignorant wankers. So not only is that my perception, that is my REALITY. I am not saying you haven't been bothered but may I ask where you work? Try getting off the main streets and go down the side streets for a stroll. If I didn't have a 95 lb Doberman and a HK .45 I wouldn't tempt the fates.

hahaha thats awesome, i bet kenny thinks he is the man right now.

^bio-hazardly deformed walleye?

P.S. The worst I know for the Kinsman stretch is the Garden Valley projects right before you get to Grand Ave. (right near where 490 begins) Lots of dope boys out there.

Cleveland... Anything along Kinsman and the forgotten triangle is one. The other being St. Clair and Euclid from Downtown all the way into East Cleveland (around Eddy is bad) (includes Glenville). So I guess what I am saying is the entire east side with the exception of University Circle and a few other areas.

While I agree in sentiment, its not a bad view. For those of you who would like a glimpse, try heading West on Harvard... the stretch from Richmond to Green and Green to Northfield gives you a nice if not panned out view of DT... just sayin.

I was thinking a giant strip club ala mons venus in tampa... it could happen!

Did you happen to see a certain Mr. Jay Gatsby in your days as an "Oggsford" man? He went there too ya know.

Lets just hope the fact the firm is breaking up doesn't throw a wrench into the design process.

I found multiple sources ( http://www.optionsoutlet.org/stockcharts/BREAKOUT/MGM_breakout_stock_chart.php ) that peg MGM Detroit at $765 million. (hotel included)

Mohegan sun cost $280 million but that was in 1995, even with inflation and increased demand for raw construction materials I would think $600 million now a days in Cleveland 15 years later would get us more... but who knows.

Allegedly, it is home to the largest collection of Ukrainian artifacts outside of Kiev :) Excuse my ignorance, was that sarcasm?

^exactly, I recall them but was actually not impressed with what little could be made out. It looked rather boxy as I recall with a saw-tooth-esque facade... if that makes sense.

Not to mention being a perfect complement to the more conservative collections of the CMA.

WOWzers

^Indeed all good points. Though I am just saying.. JUST SAYING... that the people here in Shaker will not love the notion of connecting their city with Randall Mall. I see where you are coming from and you are correct. I'm just saying that if this hits the sun press expect some fire works. I live on the Green Line so it makes no difference to me either way and I think that expansion would only make that property on Van Aken where it ends into Chagrin/Warrensville that much more attractive for a superb mixed use/mixed income development. Could be a truly urban/mass transit rebuttel to Legacy Village and Crocker Park both of which I find utterly revolting.

Can't wait to see any renderings that include this.

Simple: Get rid of the party system and elect people with innovative, original non binding ideas.