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This is what I was conforming to, right now it's a RFQ: http://www.cincinnati-oh.gov/transeng/downloads/transeng_pdf36350.pdf The city is sending a lot of funds its way in order to prop it up in terms of the 6 year plan: http://www.cincinnati-oh.gov/transeng/downloads/transeng_eps36724.pdf I won't say who I'm quoting from the Engineers office, but the general sense is that it's too far gone to rehab and it "...will probably have to come down." Also from the city: Western Hills Viaduct Rehab/Replacement (County Bridge in South Fairmount and CUF) DOTE is currently in the process of developing a project scope for the replacement/rehabilitation of the Western Hills Viaduct. A request for qualifications from consultants has been issued. Selection of a consultant and the commencement of planning work is scheduled to begin in 2009. It is expected that all rehabilitation/replacement options will exceed $100 million. Because of this high cost, state and/or federal funds will be needed to complete the project. Consequently, DOTE is petitioning ODOT to include the Western Hills Viaduct in Brent Spence project which is scheduled for 2015.

I made it clear it was a hypothetical idea. To be even clearer, it has been ruled deficient but the city hasn't made any decisions about it. This is an idea I'm throwing out there with absolutely no relationship to the city or anyone making decisions. If this isn't the right forum for ideas like this, feel free to delete the posts about it.

^ They say it will be obsolete within the next 15 years. With the financial problems, I don't see it being replaced any time soon though. The idea was it would link Fairview Park and uptown to the new Mill Creek Restoration area (that would include greenspace and bike paths- http://www.millcreekrestoration.org/Documents/master_plan.pdf). Plus, if further developed, could have a cafe or some other programed areas that would serve as a destination.

They factor all that in. I don't think we can expect buildings to just get bigger and bigger, like this. These buildings serve as icons/landmarks. People will always prefer to be close to the ground, as a general rule. This is particularly true when it comes to residences. Yeah, they account for the "live load" (the weight of the people and furniture) and a series of tuned mass dampers mitigate the amount of sway the building has due to wind. Still, the 160th floor will definitely have noticeable movement on a windy day, I would bet, to the amount of a few feet.

I don't know if they fear for their personal safety, or just don't want to be around a place where mob hits are a normal thing. Hell, a lot of suburbanites get mad if you walk on their lawn, i can't imagine what they'd do if there was a gang hit on it.

Yeah, it is just kind of bad, nowhere near the horrendous level though.

I agree, in fact I blame the reason I can't dance solely on the fact that Cincinnati has no decent dance floors anywhere.... there's probably a few other reasons but that's the one I'm sticking with.

As an architecture student, I love Fifth/Third. It's a perfect counter to Carew, and a very, very good example of the vertically oriented glass box style skyscraper. Hell, I even like the "5/3" logo on the side. As another former architecture student, it's a minimalist, 70's International-style reject who's base is made worse by pedestrian-unfriendly service/parking drives. The Keith Theater should've stayed. The building is no Minoru Yamasaki creation, arguably the king of the vertically oriented glass box skyscraper. Yeah, the World Trade Center was the king of the glass box, but I think the often ugly 70's style has its place. Although I admit I'm in the minority with my affection for it. On the other end of the spectrum, I also have a slight affection for things that are so ugly they're almost laughable, so I miss the old curtain wall on the Kroger Building. I think its pretty pedestrian friendly, maybe one of the most in Cincinnati even, sans the parking garage. Three out of four sides ain't bad though. I especially love the way it compliments Fountain Square.

Just out of curiosity.. this was a hypothetical project of mine that concerned salvaging the Western Hills Viaduct (which the city plans to tear down). Any thoughts are welcome. more: http://zfein.com/architecture/whv/index.html

That's what she said? This building has always reminded me of an arcology from SimCity 2000...

As an architecture student, I love Fifth/Third. It's a perfect counter to Carew, and a very, very good example of the vertically oriented glass box style skyscraper. Hell, I even like the "5/3" logo on the side.

We need plenty of bars to hold all the douchebags, so they don't bother us when we go out to the real bars. By the way, C-Dawg Njaim is right; second from left. Hands down.

Yeah, the last time I lived in the city a few months ago I remember seeing this and being a bit surprised just how much of an affect it would have on the skyline of downtown. I can't imagine what it's like now, or what it'll be like once the curtain wall is completed.

The Jets showed us their entire bag of tricks, we showed them absolutely nothing. We basically had twice as long to prepare for next weeks game. At least I hope our entire receiving core was dropping passes on purpose and not because of the cold. The high is 19 and the low is 7 on Saturday.

That's clearly not something their going to admit to. It's pretty obvious to any observer, though. I've heard it from a number of people living and working on OTR that were there before, during, and after the riots. I'm not going to spill their names.

The entire city of Dubai looks out of place. It definitely seems as if the architects used both the structural concept of the Illinois as well as the styling and setbacks as precedent in the design though.

The drug related murders are what I'm talking about. There is clear evidence that the CPD shifted from preventing crime in places like OTR to responding to it once it happened. You're missing the link between the two, the police slow down. Of course no one cites the riot as a reason they committed murder, but the post riot environment created because the police were forced to slow their efforts created an atmosphere in which crime exploded.

^ The work slowdown by the police following the riots caused the murder count (as well as almost all other crime) to spike drastically the next few years. Only now are we seeing numbers like we did before them. No one was murdered during the riot, but a lot of people were as a result, because the effectiveness of the police was drastically reduced in order to save face.

I'm with Sherman, only a bit more critical. Depending on how you want to classify and count, there are about five different headers/title bars across the top all in somewhat different styles, but all horizontal. There really isn't a hierarchy of what I should be looking at, and there's so much information on each page. The horizontal bars I'm seeing are: the language/options bar across the top, "Giving you reason to choose", the scrolling text over the image, the "I am" bar, and the "Explore Maps." There doesn't seem to be a cohesive aesthetic and it's making it tough to look at.

2 lanes would be plenty for Central Parkway, and larger green space in the middle with some programmed spaces (food carts, ice cream stands, etc.) and some larger trees would be interesting. Widen it to the point that it works more so as two one-way streets rather than a single street. The turning could be handled like it is on Park Ave. or Broadway (uptown at least) in New York.

They would both be replaced in any of the I-71/MLK/Taft interchange schemes though, I believe. I'm not sure that there's an official timetable but I have seen the five schemes they are deciding upon now. The new bridges could easily be adapted to support that weight, I would think, so long as someone takes the possibility into account.

By my count, the core is at 42 stories, the top mechanical mezzanine probably doesn't count as an official floor. The sheeting is on floors 31 and 32, and it marks the floors that they are spraying the fire-proofing on the structural steel (so the excess doesn't blow out the side and onto the streets below). This was my count as per this weekend, here's a photo from Friday night: There will be 3 more floors on top of the steel you see here, that mark the final setback. The tiara will sit on top of that.

Anywhere is better than the current location in the catacombs of Blegen. I've had to go in there a few times, and I swear there were cave trolls running around the aisles when I wasn't looking, and with 6'-6" or so ceilings, I constantly hit my head on all the light fixtures. Of course, the Classics Library is still tucked in down there.

Those shots are amazing. Would there be a way to get a print of one of these?

^ Here's the building: 1703 Elm St, Cincinnati, OH 45202 Streetview Well, hopefully we can now expand the Liberty St. fast food and gas station corridor up Elm a little bit. Looks like they've already gotten rid of most of the rest of the buildings they own on that block.