Ram23

This site always makes me seem like I have to pick: Do I support downtown and OTR and our efforts there, or am I a conservative? And honestly, I take less crap from my conservative friends when I bring up revitalizing downtown and OTR than I get from fellow supporters when I bring up being conservative. I enjoy listening to the guy because he identifies the most glaring problems, and represents what the majority of those from suburbs think. The entire point always comes to crime, and I agree that crime is by far the biggest problem facing revitalization efforts. He didn't mean asking for money. He meant threatened or some sort of violence. As a side note, there are times of night you need a bulletproof vest on Calhoun Street. I got an email from UC a few minutes ago about yet another two criminals "asking" for money via force and (probably unlicensed) handguns, just off of Calhoun St. The caller was up in arms about it, and was the one who mentioned the 20 blocks. I think Willy ended up suggesting walking from Central parkway through OTR to Liberty and back.

Some guy just called Willy and made the claim that OTR was safe for whites to walk around in. Cunningham bet him a hot fudge sundae that he couldn't walk 20 blocks back and forth across OTR on a Friday or Saturday night at 9:00 in good weather without getting accosted. Supposedly the producer was going to arrange the terms. I don't know how you guys think this kind of stuff "sucks."

Kenwood is a census designated place.

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20090316/NEWS01/303160026 Building under demolition on fire MADISONVILLE – A second alarm has gone out from a large fire in a three-story commercial building undergoing demolition, signaling more firefighters are needed to control the blaze, according to Cincinnati police and fire emergency communication reports. Firefighters were called to the building at Red Bank and Madison roads about 12:45 p.m. When they arrived, they were ordered not to go into the building. They were told to battle the fire from the outside because the building is not structurally stable, reports state. The Enquirer will update this story as information develops.

Well, it's near the Kenwood Country Club which is a selling point. I think the neighberhood across from it is called "Kenwood Hills" if I'm not mistaken. I don't think using the regional ammenity area of Kenwood as a selling point is really embarrassing.

Washington DC is going ahead with a streetcar plan. Seems pretty similar to what is proposed for Cincinnati. http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2009/03/15/Street_cars_headed_back_to_Washington/UPI-91961237142149/

These are not always so accurate, for the best precision use CAGIS (for Hamilton County): http://cagis.hamilton-co.org/map/cagis.htm

There are quite a few old mansions in Indian Hill, but they are mostly the estate type. All you'll be able to see is a gated drive. The area around Dayton St. has some really nice architecture and the oldest of the mansions in the city, but up the hill in either Clifton off and along Lafayette St. or in East Walnut Hills off and along Madison (even all the way back Grandin Rd.) were/are the wealthiest neighborhoods once Cincinnati began to grow outside of the basin and up into the surrounding hills. It depends on what style you're looking for, really. Liberty Hill is also a nice little pocket, and then of course Mt. Adams is a one-of-a-kind must see place. Clifton: http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=qhs6mh7ypqsx&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=35170260&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1 East Walnut Hills: http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=qhnjgd7ytvhs&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=35144031&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Take the trip to the top of Carew Tower if you haven't been there before. The view is great and it only costs $2. As for Indian Hill, the whole area around Kugler Mill Rd. and Comargo Rd. off of Loveland Madeira will allow you to gawk at some mansions. I used to deliver cars for a Lexus dealership in high school and would find myself driving new cars through many a gated driveway in that area. Spooky Hollow Rd. is also a pretty interesting drive.

I think some of these renderings are way, way out of scale - especially the water color. I figure the 3 parking levels are below grade on the Calhoun side, meaning 5 stories of office (14'-0" ea. at the tallest) is 70 feet. The steeples of St. George (before the fire) were something like 180 feet I think. This new office should be about as tall as the apartments along Calhoun on the opposite side from what I can tell. As for the open space here, remember it's adjacent to a very, very dense campus. I think we will see the parking fully utilized as well as any plaza space with seating of any type.

I would say heck yes building a jail will stimulate the economy. One, it will employ an architect, contractor, and numerous other trades for a year or so, allowing them to stay afloat and not lay off employees. It would benifit the local economy. Second, it would reduce crime in OTR and other areas by keeping these guys with multiple offenses and warrents in jail for the amount of time they deserve, rather than getting sent home early. And finally, more so than actually reducing crime is the perception of safety. As I said earlier, OTR is safer than the wrap it gets, and a new jail with more cells and more bars will make people think OTR and downtown are just that much safer. You can get into the details about who pays for the jail vs. who pays for transit, but most people in Cincinnati don't care. It all came from their paychecks one way or another and they have priorities. I hate getting into a jail vs. streetcar argument because we need both, and if forced to prioritize the jail is the obvious winner, for me.

From what I've heard, Duke charges quite a bit to move power lines. $20,000 per pole was the price they gave my hometown of Loveland when they added curbs and widened an old country road I lived on. Instead, the city just left the poles in the middle of the street and paved around them, closing them off with a curb of course - making little peninsulas.

At the most, it was a bad choice of words, and spelled out Willie's problem with the city: crime. That's what the discussion was about. I'm in OTR quite often too, once or twice a week at least, I've worked on a few school projects there, and done quite a bit of photography too. I know it's not as dangerous as the wrap it gets, but I believe crime is a huge problem there. Cunningham's general view is that we shouldn't be spending money at all in the nieghberhood until we have enough jail cells to keep our criminals locked away for due time. While I don't agree with that, I respect the opinion.

Wow what? The simple analogy was that ithey're both dangerous, don't twist it into something it wasn't.

If you're in coach you're allowed one bag, that xbox would be with me. expensive, important items and medicine should always be brought on with you. I would ship it. UPS ground is probably cheaper and safer than paying for a checked bag, anyways, and usually only takes a day or two. I hate flying so much though, I drive around the country when I have to move every 3 months for co-op jobs. If I had to fly I have decided I will box up most of my things and ship them to where I'm moving the day before I fly there.

That one made me chuckle.

Count me in. Again, these are great shots that really show the detail of the place that I haven't been able to see in any of the photos that are popular online already. It really, really resembles the NYC subway. Finish the platforms and walls with some tile and it's dead on.

The Chrysler Building in New York is sometimes considered the greatest example of Art Deco, but often the title falls on Cincinnati's Union Terminal. I think Cincinnati has one of the biggest collections of art deco hiding around town, mostly influenced by the construction of Carew and Union Terminal. You can see certain elements of those buildings that were mimicked in smaller constructions all around town. Lunken Airport is a good example; the design of the terminal shows the link between the up and coming airplane and the streamlined aspect of the style. There are also quite a few factories around Cincinnati that are/were good examples. The Crosley Building in Camp Washington (again the design is linked to modern cars/radios produced by Crosley) as well as the former Milecron Factory in Norwood that is now home to the parking lot of Target and Meijer. There are a few books that I do not have with me right now that point out lots of fine examples of Cincinnati's Art Deco architecture). I know there are a few old movie theaters, one on the corner of Gilbert and McMillan in Walnut Hills, and another in Corryville on Reading that utilized Art Deco style in order to portray the popular and modern content of the building. It was definately a "modern" movement in one of the many senses of the word. The style was heavily influenced by state of the art technology of the time, which led to the term streamlined being associated with Art Deco. Most of the buildings in the style were often owned by a person or company wanting to portray that they were sleek, modern, and thinking of the future. Car companies, radio companies, movie theaters, etc. There were also trains modeled in art-deco, which is how Union Terminal came into the style. It's also interesting that the term Art Deco comes from the fact that it was, at the time, thought to be purely decoration as opposed to other popular styles of the time.

I just heard the city council asked Gov. Strickland to immediately close the halfway house in OTR that released Kirkland. This guy should have never been out, and will hopefully see the death penalty for what he's done this time.

Politically incorrect, not racist. Most people enjoy well-placed politically incorrect humor, or else believe they need to be politically correct in order to not hurt someone's feelings. Very few people are actually politically correct.

Not measuring their relevance (which is probably mostly based upon opinion), just there chances to exist for much longer, which aren't very good at 13 cents a share, 40% of which they had to hand over to even stay afloat. That event happening the same weekend WLW left was too much of a coincidence for me to believe it wasn't the cause one way or another.

SiriusXM would actually have been gone in May if their lender didn't buy 40% of the company and erase the debt. Even that might not work. With or without Clear Channel, WLW would exist. It has way too large of an audience (probably the largest in Cinci, though i can't find any numbers) to fold. As I said, radio and TV are safe, it's newspapers that are a dying media. If only while driving, most people listen to radio every day. Not many people read a newspaper every day, sans the internet.

Eh, I would say radio is much, much safer than print media at this point. The internet has destroyed print media, while it's expanded options for radio and TV. Neither are going anywhere, papers on the other hand have an actual chance of being a thing of the past. Satellite radio is fine, especially with XM and Series merging. It is almost impossible now to purchase a head unit without Sat. inputs. What probably happened, was that folks started threatening XM because of 700's stance on certain issues. Of the people that voice their opinion, I'd bet it's the folks against 700 more than the other way around. Sirius and XM merged because they were both failing, and thought they were destroying each other. They were wrong, they were both just plain failing. The stock is worth about 15 cents right now. They actually just got bailed out of bankruptcy by Liberty the other day: http://247wallst.com/2009/03/06/sirius-xm-holders-get-to-live-longer-siri-linta-lintb-lcapa-lcapb-lmdia/ Either Liberty didn't want WLW there for whatever reason, or (more likely) Clear Channel wanted to get away from the ensuing mess.

^ Or the fact that Satellite radio is about to go belly up. Last I heard they had hired a bankruptcy consultant. The only reason most people have satellite radio is that it came equipped in their cars with a year or two free (payed for by the auto company of course). Now that car sales are down, plus no one is renewing their subscriptions after their trials, satellite radio is dying. I wouldn't be surprised if it's gone before the end of the year. I'm betting 700WLW leaving because of "circumstances beyond their control" has something to do with the financial troubles of XM, not the popularity of WLW. Sorry to burst your bubble! 700WLW is very popular, very entertaining, and probably the most powerful media source in Cincinnati. The people posting in this thread are the minority, by far. Hell, I'm in New York City right now, at work, and am actually listening to WLW. The noon National Anthem is one of my daily highlights.

I've read that it was inflation post WWI. The money the city got before the war for construction wasn't worth nearly as much when the time came for finishing it. They weren't able to ever get enough money to finish building at the inflated dollar amount. I think they needed almost double what they had.