Blue Line

^There will be a new Chick-Fil-A opening sometime in the autumn in Tangeman University Center on the UC west campus.

So, since the properties changed ownership already, does that mean there's no going back in terms of razing the entire block? I realize that the project itself isn't absolutely certain, but the act of destroying the block...

Vote with your feet. Jesus. If you don't support this kind of development, don't even visit. It sends the wrong message.

You say that like it's a bad thing. Two completely different situations. In the case of Norwood, the developers and the city were *completely* in the wrong.

^You need to provide some context with a question like that. Are talking about across from the University? Apartment complex. I believe there's a thread for that development already. If you're not talking about that area, be more specific.

^Aren't, you mean. Right? Yes, the extra school routes are a far cry from what Metro offered when I was in high school--X routes for nearly every major route in the city.

I don't think anyone is arguing that the streetcar will change population trends by its lonesome. Streetcars are almost always part of a larger transit network.

I like it but the "shadow" behind him just looks like a bad paint job. It certainly doesn't look like a shadow and should be fixed.

^Yeah, shut the whole city down in every way but automobile traffic.

I was talking about entertaining the thought of actually going out there. I didn't say that it was preposterous to simply talk about it.

^All that within a year? Jesus.

^I always get those two mixed up in terms of that buidling because I know about the crumbling Hudepohl building on the west side of town. Now I remember where the old Moerleiin facility is--right across from the Rookwood Pottery building. I seem to recall that the building was put back on the market, earlier this year...

Well, I was going through a difficult period in my life, but you really can't get any better than Walnut Hills, if you're looking at something within the city's school district. The school is ranked nationally, has the most AP course opportunities of any school in the nation, and pulls people from all over the city. There were definitely opportunities I had there that I wouldn't have received elsewhere. Yeah, the test is really just logic problems and puzzles, at least when I took it. I'm not good at them either, and I'm glad that I squeaked through. But, as stated before, you're definitely not down and out after one try.

Everything about this project angers me. You have the old Remke Markets site in Newport, yet we're absolutely destroying a natural hillside for more retail. This angers me to the production of a dozen expletives. I understand that they (the said developer) was hungry for a large land area, which probably wasn't otherwise available so close to the river. That being said, this is further evidence of how PUDs destroy what we can never recreate.

Is the old Moerlein Brewery building on E McMicken actually vacant, based on the spectulative Drop Inn Center discussion? I would love to see that buiilding reused for its original purpose. Reuse of scale specific buildings like terminal/station buildings and breweries seem to capture very little opportunities that their original tenants had.

^Actually, I believe they cut the Riverfest Express due to tighter federal restrictions. That's even what the cincinnatimetro twitter news feed stated.

Just to clarify, I was just talking about the code guidelines that shape modern construction in almost any municipality. Gotta get those permits.

A 70-story tower with all those uses. Looks like you'd be a fan of Le Corbusier's Vibrant City. Look into some of the criticisms of that design. Another problem with that would be a concentration of uses in the same building, which would discourage potential foot traffic with varied uses along corridors. As for the subway, we didn't abandon a subway. A project like that requires substantial federal subsidy, which was its pitfall prior to WWII. To get back on topic, Cincinnati has a high class A office vacancy rate. Read some of the earlier posts in this thread about how Frost Brown Todd and GAIC are simply moving to a newer office space, rather than providing attractive options with our existing office footage for potential relocations *to* the area. We don't want the former to become an ongoing trend.

^ I completely agree. As appealing as someone's transit wet dream was earlier stated, I'd be afraid that $1 billion would be extremely prone to a quick jerk. That's why we leave it up to the feds to filter money down to local entities, who can show that they have the necessary blocks in place before spending money.

^70 stories for what office demand? Maybe in 30 years when our office vacancy rates drop off a bit, and we become an emerging world city.

^It *is* a PUD, so I guess brownstones would be theoretically possible despite contemporary construction restrictions. But if they did that, it would absolutely price most people out of that neighborhood. Plus, that type of use isn't really promoting the type of density planned for the project, unless you're proposing six-story brownstones. And good luck finding artisans in the area who know how to do that type of quality construction.

Coming from someone who attended Walnut Hills from 7th through 12th grades, moving on from Mt. Washington Elementary, it's not difficult to test in. In fact, you get three tries. Additionally, the test is not very representative of who will do well there. Many people who got perfect scores from my elementary school failed out after their first year. Others who didn't do so well on the test (but passed) ended up doing very well at Walnut Hills. In saying all that, I'd actually recommend that you look into Mount Washington as well. It's as far east as you can get while still staying in Cincinnati, but it has more of a small town feel to it. Very comfortable, safe, and good for children, I'd say. The school is within walking distance of the center of town. Transportation to and from Walnut Hills and other CPS high schools is served by the city's Metro buses, which are triple-digit, extra school routes.

Gah, f*cking sprawl. The urbanites just can't resist, as is evident even here on these forums.

There is also Barrelhouse. And if you want to be technical about it, Moerlein does brew in the city. For the past couple of years Hudy Bock has been brewed at Barrelhouse's brewery. Barrelhouse has had a particularly difficult time returning to prominence, after losing their brewing facilities to Sam Adams, losing their brewpub, and having problems in the processes. I hear that consistency has been a problem for them as of late too. Additionally, Hudy Bock is a brew that's only offered during Bockfest, so I wouldn't consider that to be consistent either.

I would just like to point out that Listermann Brewing Company started selling large bottles of about 5 different varieties at Ludlow Wines and Craft Beers. That stuff is brewed right on Dana Ave. Of course there's also Mt. Carmel Brewing Company, which operates only a few miles east of Cincinnati. These are the true local brews we have right now.