Clefan98

Browns still have the better record this year. flip it how you want. LOL.

^unlock the bungles thread if you're going to talk sh!t in here. FOOL.LOL.

CDM yesterday marked the 3rd straight game the bungles were blacked out locally. HAHAHAHHAHA

26. Bengals Consecutive sellouts: 36 | Season-ticket waiting list: Undisclosed Bengals fans are disenchanted with their team. Cincinnati has just one winning season in the past 17 years, and during that span the city has grown accustomed to having a sub-par football team. Cincinnati historically is a baseball town, not a football town, and there is no natural pigskin rival to root against. If anything, Bengals fans spew most of their venom on their own. They're upset at star receiver Chad Johnson for his antics and wanting to get out of town. They turned on Carson Palmer recently for supporting USC -- his alma mater -- over Ohio State. A majority of fans turned long ago on the Bengals' front office led by owner Mike Brown. Granted, Cincinnati does draw well and has more loyal followers today than during the lean Dave Shula/Dick LeBeau/Bruce Coslet years. But Bengals fans remain very skeptical of their franchise. -- James Walker

3. Browns Consecutive sellouts: 72 | Season-ticket waiting list: Undisclosed Browns fans are some of the most dedicated in the NFL. Cleveland is a football-crazed town year-round, and its loyalty has been tested like no other city. Cleveland lost its team to Baltimore following the 1995 season, and the "new" Browns have taken nearly a decade to get it together. Yet the fans remain rabid and hopeful every year, sometimes to a fault. Cleveland fans travel well and the "Browns Backers" are one of the NFL's largest and well-organized fan groups. About the only thing lacking is the stadium atmosphere, which has yet to reach the level of the old Municipal Stadium. -- James Walker

^ yup it is the largest. Just last year ESPN ranked Browns' fans as the third largest and best fan base. Bengals were in the 20 somethings. Who cares about cincy anyways? Most people outside of Ohio think its part of kentucky.

DanB's right...Get use to the basement bengal fans.

Like the browns not converting 3rd and 1 on the bengals 2yd line and settling for a fg?

Delhomme is getting paid 7mil a year...wtf?!?!

^yup. Kasich and like minded people are definitely holding this state back.

Can you post facts to back this up?

CSU BBall received 13 AP top 25 votes this week.

Ugh. Surprising everyone with a few wins and you think you're gonna win the division next year. I read these stories like the novel that was the Believeland piece from ESPN and feel bad for Cleveland and quietly hope one of their teams can win, but the arrogance of Clevelanders makes it so damn hard. All fans are the same man.

McDaniels was in over his head. He'll be a good offensive coordinator somewhere.

Might have to seriously consider taking one of those QB's...I'm sure there's more pressing needs. Palmer just doesn't look the same as he used to. Maybe Defensive line?

http://www.the-ozone.net/football/2010/SugarBowl/tresselreaction.html Ohio State is just 1-2 all-time in the Sugar Bowl, but that is nothing compared to their 0-9 record against the SEC in bowl games. Three of those losses have come during Tressel’s 10-year tenure in Columbus, but two of them were in national championship games. “I think when you hear about matchups with SEC teams, No. 1 you’re going to play great teams,” Tressel said. “It just so happens the record is what it is, in large part because you’ve played against great football teams. It really doesn’t have a bearing on this one.” What will have a bearing on this game is the fact Arkansas is 10-2 this season with four wins against teams currently ranked in the BCS top-25. Both of their losses also came at the hands of current top-25 teams. One of them is playing for the national title and the other won the crystal football a year ago. “An Ohio State-Arkansas match will capture the interest of everyone,” Tressel said. “I don’t know too much about them other than the fact they had two losses to Alabama and Auburn and they are two of the best teams in the country.” The Razorbacks feature one of the best passing attacks in the country behind former Michigan quarterback Ryan Mallett, who threw for 3,592 yards and 30 touchdowns during the regular season. “Arkansas is one of the best teams in the country,” Tressel said. “It’s a tremendous challenge and we’re going to have to play our best football

Auburn vs Oregon OSU vs Ark MSU vs. Ala In that order.

I wou I'm not sure I'd go that far. The BCS actually has a pretty good slate of bowls this year. I'm really looking forward to Stanford-VT and Wisconsin-TCU, too. Arkansas didn't even play for the SEC title. I would go that far...All the talk on ESPN radio (other than NC game) is saying OSU and Ark is the best matchup.....Stanford vs Va tech and Wisky/TCU. Please. Arkansas gave Auburn a helluva better game than SC did in the SEC championship game. Whats your point? Arkansas's only two losses are to Auburn and Alabama. Stanford, TCU, and Va tech wouldn't even be in a BCS game if they played in the B10 or SEC.

Most of their labs and factories are already in the suburbs. Their largest facililty is off Harvard Ave. The workers in downtown are executives, sales, Hr, and Admin positions.

I think Wisky could beat anyone this year.

UC has fans? Didn't see many at the game Sat.

Other than the NC game the Sugar Bowl is the most anticipated matchup of the BCS....

^Yea I know....After the first series Big Ben's nose was more crooked than the cuyahoga river.

Since the bengals will have one of the top draft picks next year....who should they take?

What a game for Haden. No surprise he was named rookie of the month.