Clefan98

^ Most of the gridlock occurs when the bars let out. I doubt you're in the office at that time, but maybe?

^ Yawn... Cleveland says Hopkins Airport drinking water is safe https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2019/01/cleveland-says-hopkins-airport-drinking-water-is-safe.html

^ Yeah, technically that is D-S. They broke ground about a month ago. The two townhomes in the back have already been framed and are ready for exterior finishes.

The November job's report is out, here are the numbers for Ohio's big cities. 12-month % change Cleveland +2.9% https://www.bls.gov/regions/midwest/oh_cleveland_msa.htm Cincinnati +1.9% https://www.bls.gov/regions/midwest/oh_cincinnati_msa.htm Columbus +1.5% https://www.bls.gov/regions/midwest/oh_columbus_msa.htm Akron +1.2% https://www.bls.gov/regions/midwest/oh_akron_msa.htm Toledo +.5% https://www.bls.gov/regions/midwest/oh_toledo_msa.htm Dayton +.2% https://www.bls.gov/regions/midwest/oh_dayton_msa.htm

^ I can't post that information. But remember me when the 2020 census is released : )

Data that my organization has access to.

I'm referring to what's happening in 2018, not 2010-2017.

^ Can you post a link to your source?

Yeah, I agree, these number seem off. I don't trust estimate data that's been presented here.

The rise in enrollment is a citywide stat. So Cleveland is adding students overall. And even though most of the growth is contained to a small part of the city, those small areas are seeing LARGE gains. Downtown, UC and the near westside contain some of the fastest growing zip codes in Ohio.

^ The rise in Cleveland Public School enrollment, and number of building permits issued in the city in 2017/2018 vs previous years, are a couple of other indicators. The real estate market is another indicator. The number of houses being sold each month in the city of Cleveland are hitting record numbers.

Job numbers aren't the only statistics driving my opinion.

What data other than population "estimates" are you using? According to the recent job numbers and GDP news, Cleveland is outpacing Cbus and Cincy in 2018, economically speaking. Totally agree with your last sentence BTW..

And if you click on the charts listed under "Back Data" (first column) it goes all the way back to the beginning of the year.

YTD Job Growth Numbers Cleveland Jan 18 1033.8 / Oct 1093.3 ~60k jobs added Cincinatti Jan 18 1071.1 / Oct 1120.9 ~ 49k jobs added Columbus Jan 18 1069.0 Oct 1111.9 ~ 42k jobs added I personally know people who track population/migration stats for a living. They believe Cleveland has already stabilized and is now showing signs of significant growth. These jobs numbers certainly support that theory.

^ I changed it to YOY right after I posted YTD...Nothing what you said changes the fact that Cleveland has outpaced both C's in job growth from OCT 17 - Oct 18. And yes, I realized what my first link regarding GDP was about. It's important to note because Columbus and Cincinnati both exceeded Cleveland's GDP in 2016. So, in summary, the estimates you posted are very accurate, but the YOY job growth numbers (which have already been revised) are not.

Was that back when Cincy was still more relevant than Toledo?

While the booster bros from central and southern Ohio were busy celebrating estimates, Cleveland's economy passed them by. Cleveland economy outpaces Cincinnati, Columbus in 2017: https://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2018/09/cleveland_economy_outpaces_cin.html YOY job growth #'s as of Oct 18 Cleveland 2.5% Cincinnati 1.8% Columbus 1.9% Minneapolis-St. Paul 1.7% Chicago .7% Detroit .7% Pittsburgh .7% Indy 2.1% St Louis .8% Dallas 3% San Francisco 2% *In previous months Cleveland had the other two C's double up until Oct Source: https://www.bls.gov/eag/eag.oh_cleveland_msa.htm

Based on what? Estimates?

^ Expect to hear an announcement for "The Hinge" sometime during Q1 of 2019.

Cleveland's job growth rate is almost double that of Columbus and Cincinnati thus far in 2018. The actual 2020 census numbers are going to shock some people on this forum.

In a statement, United said: “Boston and Cleveland continue to be important destinations in United’s route network. We continuously monitor business and leisure demand across the system and during the most recent review made the difficult decision to discontinue service on the Cleveland-Boston route effective March 7, 2019. Today’s announcement does not change United’s plans to expand Cleveland service to nine popular business and leisure destinations this winter.” https://www.cleveland.com/travel/2018/12/united-airlines-to-drop-cleveland-to-boston-flights-delta-will-pick-them-up.html

I'll be at tonight's game!

Where did you see that Stark can't close the financing gap even with the public subsidy? The new state bill hasn't even passed yet.

I'd encourage you (and everyone on here) to take some time and digest this study done by Urban Partners out of Philadelphia. The focus of the study is future downtown housing needs, but it also includes some interesting data for the core city neighborhoods. http://www.downtowncleveland.com/DCA/media/DCA_Media/2018-Housing-Demand-Analysis.pdf