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Orange and Blue? The Michael Stanley Cavs song... http://www.nba.com/media/cavaliers/tonights_the_night.mp3

Of course it's subjective. But no matter how you look at it, whenever an officer discharges his firearm, it should be cause for concern (not that he took such action, but that it would even be necessary). Like I said to 121, we seem to have lowered our expectations. That's a really nice neighborhood, in fact one of the more attractive middle class areas of Shaker Heights. My issue has nothing to do with the viewpoints or interpretations of you or anyone else and more to do with what you had upthread called "an objective view" and now correctly deemed subjective. Like StrapHanger said, the objective view was simply that the police had to draw their firearms (at least according to the presented articles) once or twice in the past year. How you then interpret that information is up to you and anyone else to decide.

^Agreed. Saying simply that "Another police shooting" occured is not objective, it's completely subjective. When I first read that line, my interpretation was that there was another one in the last week or month, or four or five in the last year. I wonder how many other people on here thought the same thing. Maybe you view two police shootings in one year a lot, but then it's a subjective statement, not objective. It might sound like splitting hairs, but little words can make a big difference. If you had given your data about the last shooting right after, it would have provided a much more objective perspective.

Same news from the PD: http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2010/05/continental_and_united_announc.html I wonder where the two new hubs will be located. Here's what their website says. Not sure which two are new: "The combined airline will have 10 hubs, including hubs in the four largest cities in the U.S., New York/Newark, Los Angeles, Chicago and Houston. The combined company will also have hubs in Cleveland, Denver, Guam, San Francisco, Tokyo and Washington, D.C." http://www.unitedcontinentalmerger.com/benefits/communities

Reasoning? They don't have a stadium and because it's an expensive sport, even if non-scholarship. It will lose money and I just don't think the University benefits all that much from it. Interesting as for most schools the football program is one of the few athletic activities that earn money. Apparently, all the sports would become non-scholarship Not sure if I understand you correctly here, but I don't think all sports will go non-scholarship. I suspect that sports like baseball, basketball, softball, volleyball, etc. would all still be scholarship. I was just thinking that. The football team, if approved, would be non-scholarship for sure, but it would have no impact on the other sports' scholarships.

If an MLS team is still a possibility for Cleveland then I think they could utilize the same stadium on the location of CSU's current soccer/football field. A 20,000-30,000 seat stadium would be appropriate for both uses. If CSU would ever morph into a D-I program or garner larger crowds then they could use Cleveland Browns Stadium. If they do get a football team they should build a football stadium on campus instead of the currently planned baseball stadium. Move the baseball stadium to League Park. A football program is a great idea and should be coupled with a name change to The University of Cleveland. Both would have a huge impact on CSU's image... or should I say UCleve. Most of the people I went to high school with never even considered CSU because most of them really thought it was a community college similar to Cincinnati State and Columbus State. The name is confusing to those that only give the school a quick look. Krenzler Field, the current soccer stadium, currently has less than 2,000 permanent seats. There's not nearly enough room for 20,000 seats in there the way things are currently set up, and they aren't going to change. If the football program does go forward, from what I understand, the "lack of a stadium" issue will be addressed. I can't say much more than that at this point.

Reasoning? They don't have a stadium and because it's an expensive sport, even if non-scholarship. It will lose money and I just don't think the University benefits all that much from it. Interesting as for most schools the football program is one of the few athletic activities that earn money. I can't speak for MOST of the D-I programs in the country, but some of the ones that we could be comparing to (like Akron and Kent State) might earn positive revenue but actually lose money on the whole. Sports Illustrated had Kent being $2.6 million in the red and Akron being $3.3 million in 2006. Granted, these are scholarship programs, but I'm pretty sure the teams in the Pioneer League (which CSU would likely join) lose money too, just not as much. While it may not make the program or the athletic department money, it very well could benefit the school as a whole. I think what CSU is proposing is a good starting point to fully transition from a commuter-based school to one with a large on campus community. I know the athletic department has done their research on the impact football makes to a school and its student body, and it might be well worth the investment.

I think McCoy will be solid. I only mentioned his mental toughness because it was hard to understand what other reasons (other than maybe his height) that he dropped so far. I think it was smart for him to be cautious with his injury against Bama, but I had to wonder if the NFL guys felt the same way. If I had to describe this draft for the Browns in one word: Poise. Something that seemed to have been lacking in the front office for a while. Seems like good things to come.

I wonder how much McCoy's percieved lack of mental toughness is hurting him after he didn't come back in the National Championship.

Hey Noah, how many games left until your vacation starts?

I got it on Chrome too, but IE8 and Firefox seem fine.

Outstanding shots, as always.

Not sure if this belongs here (I can't remember if there was a Hugo Boss thread) but I thought this was pretty cool that it was getting national attention... Danny Glover says Hugo Boss not fashionable for this year's Oscars NEW YORK - Actor Danny Glover is calling on stars at this weekend's Oscar awards to take a stand on behalf of Hugo Boss workers in Cleveland. In a letter sent to dozens of Oscar nominees and others in the film industry set to attend Sunday's Oscars, Danny Glover called on the stars not to wear Hugo Boss to the event. Full article: http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/danny-glover-says-hugo-boss-not-fashionable-for-this-year's-oscars

Generally speaking, decreasing the efficiency of auto traffic can have a positive impact on mass transit ridership. Look at Chicago. It's a pain in the a** to drive around there, Lakeshore Drive is backed up all the time. But people who don't want to deal with it ride the train, take the EL, ride a bus. In order for RTA service to improve, there has to be a supporting ridership, and making it a little harder to drive may help with that. But that's for another topic.

For what it's worth, I thought this was an interesting read, especially this paragraph: "Much as the suburbs hate to admit it, for example, their economic health is inextricably linked to that of the cities. Recent literature explains this more fully. The National League of Cities, in a study, "All in It Together: Cities, Suburbs and Local Economic Regions," found that for most U.S. metro areas, median household incomes of central cities and suburbs moved up and down together between 1979 and 1989; one did not prosper without the other." http://www.sprawlwatch.org/regionalannex.html And for some recent figures: http://www.louisvilleky.gov/yourgovernment/merger.htm

Thanks for the info, Scav and Hts. I think the other great thing about the cables, if I understand it correctly, is that it would provide for column-free floor space, which has to be a pretty big plus for a convention center. Obviously all speculative now, but still could be a great concept if done without compromising the mall too much.

Anyone know if the design that uses the "catenary cables" to support the roof is still in play? I know the latest renderings showed columns but I'm not sure if that was just a general design idea before the architect was chosen. Not sure if the fact that they're reusing the "bath tub" has anything to do with preventing the cable system idea. It'd be sweet if they could make it work to have the completely open floor space.

I agree, and I'll take it a step further. I've been living in Indianapolis for the last four years, and I can say I'd much rather be one of many passionate hard-luck Browns fans than be associated with the Indy fan base that had 11 people show up at the airport to welcome home the Colts after the Super Bowl. 11!!! Incredible. Personally, I'd much rather be a part of a passionate fan base that doesn't have much to cheer for than a weak fan base that barely shows up when their team wins. Unfortunately, that doesn't make being a Browns fan much easier.

Oh it's just a news site, you're not expecting accuracy are you? ;-) Plausible deniability. I'm sure the quote was correct the whole time. :wink:

Just checked the story again and the quote now says "there were discussions to replace the building" instead of "discussions are underway." Buzzkill.

"The lists represent nothing more than the intersection of lazy reporting and easily culled census data." I don't know if it could be stated much better.

^ 34,000 sf according to the article.

I see what you're saying. From what it sounds like, the roof of the new CC will actually be above street level (if it's not already). I wouldn't mind seeing some kind of retail component added one way or another without compromising the vistas too much.

I don't know about anyone else, but I was intrigued by the proposal for the Mall that was made by the third-place group from the NCTC design competition: http://www.clevelandcompetition.com/Gallery/2009%20CDC%20Winning%20Submissions/09-Cleveland%20Design%20Competition%20-%2009377%20-%2002.jpg Obviously it would depend upon what kind and how much retail could be lured to the pedestrian area, but it's at least an interesting concept to have it go below the level of the mall rather than above. Plus it seems like it could still be possible at a later date even if all MMPI does is slap a roof on the CC and throw some dirt back on top after they're done remodeling it.

Do a Google image search for "One Indiana Square" which is a tower in Indianapolis. They recently completed a facade replacement on this building that I think is similar to what they are suggesting for the Federal Building. This one was done for different reasons (tornado damage) but it has definitly changed the appearance of the building for the better, in my opinion.