Grumpy

Those Ameritrust buildings came down around the same time that the Key tower went up. Somewhere at home (though I've been unable to find it) I have a picture my Dad took of my brother and I on the observation deck at Terminal Tower with demolition going on on those two while Key Tower (though not called that at the time) is under construction.

Are you volunteering to educate them? :-D

I suppose if you're already flying out of Cleveland it might make some sense to some people to just fly to Cleveland to catch your connection. I imagine the security lines will be shorter in Youngstown, the parking will be cheaper, and it's a shorter drive. Inefficient sure, and it won't get you there any faster, but if you can relax on the flight instead of watching the road it might seem worthwile to someone.

I'm somewhat stuck. It would be really difficult to leave the area because my Mother and my In-laws are here, plus we went and bought a house right before the real estate market crashed. I was offered a job in DC last year, but after a lot of thinking about it decided the increase in salary wouldn't be enough to cover moving there and then frequently (a few times a year) traveling back to visit family.

They use much less water because the tumble your clothes through a little puddle at the bottom instead of soaking them in a big tub and just agitating them and because they use less water, they also heat less water. I tried building a solar oven over the summer out of stuff lying around the house (Old window pane, a couple of plastic tubs, balled up junk mail as insulation and a little duct tape) and got it up to about 250. Not hot enough for cookies, but made some awesome BBQ. (Just without the smoke).

It's been a few years since I used a laundromat, but don't you just put the laundry basket on the floor beneath the door when you open it? That way everything falls into the basket, then you can take the basket to whichever dryer is open.

I thought the play calling was crap. Too predictable and too cautious, and they over relied on Hillis in the second half. The AZ defense was able to adjust to him, but we kept sending him up the middle like he was going to be a surprise. Seneca looked pretty good. He stayed calm, which I view as a positive. I'd rather have a QB that stays calm when the game goes poorly than one that gets emotionally invested in the game and feels too despondent to play well after stuff happens. The O line held up better than usual, but that might have been more about AZ's defense than anything else. In general I liked how the defense played, but there were several plays that showed a lack of communication about who was covering whom.

Sounds cheesy, presumptious, pompous, and silly. I always wondered why they insisted on saying "The" before "Ohio State University" but still called themselves OSU, shouldn't it be tOSU?

Outside of Pittsburgh and Cincinatti (where the nickname applies more to the football team than the city as a whole) how many people really think of that nickname when they think Cleveland?

:roll: The Pennsylvanian already travels from NYC to Pittsburgh, it could just be extended West to Columbus, then Indy, then Chicago. It's not as far out of the way as you make it sound.

The best part would be that (as Ken's plan shows) you could tie it in with the Opportunity Corridor so you could call it a road project and get some money from ODOT. It's a project that would require hundreds of millions in investment, which is hard to come by, but it could dramatically change the neighborhood and with that big of an investment it could affect the economy.

WTH? Where's the additional evening service on the 30 that was in the plans? There's still a 28 minute layover for people transfering from the Healthline and the bus is packed when it leaves Windermere.

I hate CFLs too but mostly because they take a couple minutes to "warm up". I've been slowly replacing all my CFLs with LEDs, but they're not cheap. I buy 1 everytime I'm in Home Depot buying other stuff for the house (So every couple months) and if I notice that they're on sale I go buy a couple. As for what else am I doing to go green; I take the bus most days to work (In the spring and summer I rode the bike once or twice a week). I recycle, though not as much as I should. I'm half-way through rewiring my house so that I can blow insulation into the walls (the fun of an old house). I grew a handful of my own vegatables this summer.

I'm pretty sure it was "the Forest City" before there was a FC. Though do we really have many forests left?

Well that would explain why it's labeled that way on the photo.

^Holding an artist responsible for indefinite maintenance makes no sense, but holding them responsible for the artwork failing to work properly in the first couple years seems reasonable. I think we'd all be bothered if RTA bought some artwork that fell apart the week after it was installed and then was left responsible for fixing some poorly made work. Without actual knowledge of the situation, we're all speculating.

^Here's the link to the Ohio version of the chart, http://www.policymattersohio.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Highways_2011920.pdf A really nice graphical representation of Ohio transportation funding.

They're starting prep work and boarded up the beams so they don't damage the stained steel skin around the beams when they put up the scaffolding. The latest I heard is that they're going to be focusing on scaffolding and replacing the roof in 2012, and will be building the new skin around the building in 2013 with some finishing up stretching into 2014. (Considering GSA is managing the project though, that seems ambitious.)

I think the hills are more for sitting/lounging on than playing on. I agree they don't look organic, but I like them.

I refuse to look at this link. I just ate and don't want to toss my breakfast. Randal O'Toole...ecchhh... :drunk: The link is to an article exposing O'Toole as a comedian, not O'Toole's article.

Tells me Clevelanders are getting soft! :-D

I think part of that is a reduced emphasis on special teams under Shurmer. He's not getting the blocks he used to, though I agree he's aging and slowing down.

Yes, most of us would prefer to see it preserved and a new building, but if given the choice of no new building vs. preserving the Wolfe building, I'll take a new building. The Wolfe is an attractive building and it'd be great to keep it, but it's not like we're talking about replacing it with a surface lot.

All I know is there seems to always a bus headed to the UC station when I'm trying to get to Windermere. :-) Good luck.

ugh.