Grumpy

Is ODOT reimbursing RTA for the extra fuel and personnel costs for running shuttles every other weekend?

I dislike the exposed parking, but otherwise the building is much improved.

Alcohol and tobacco aren't sins. Taxing a minority for taking part in a legal activity to fund a sports complex? What vices do you have that we can tax? My opposition to 7 is based on the inequity in who pays. Instead of taxing something tangentially related, how about finding a revenue stream based on (A) who goes to the games/arena and (B) watches them on TV. Why should people watching on TV have to pay for a stadium we're not using? If the advertising pays for the team and staff, we've already paid enough. If I'm watching on TV, it makes no difference at all to me what condition the stadium is in, or frankly whether they're even in a stadium. If the Cavs moved to the Y and the Browns to their practice field in Berea it wouldn't affect the game for those of us watching on TV.

Folks if you're going to have a conversation at 7:30 in the morning with one of your coworkers about the health benefits of peanuts, it helps to annunciate on the t sound.

If I had a view like 432 Park I'd spend too much time staring out the window to cook anything. The 9? I'd probably just stare out the windows 9 months out of the year.

^ :clap:

I highly doubt you'll be able see any portion of the field. The stands on the south side of the stadium will block the view.

I know I know. Hell, I don't need to be told which routes go by those locations. Just being snarky.

Still wish they would have installed scrolling LED signs like the healthlines have. Half the time they don't work on the Healthline.

^Isn't Columbus a bit steep for a streetcar?

Little Met is technically in the city isn't it?

^My assumption is that the big chains are more likely to pass the savings on to the consumer since their whole advantage is in low pricing whereas the local bar or convenience store down the street will be more likely to pocket it as a way of increasing profits without consumers noticing the price change.

True, but would you rather that nickel go to the bar owner or the sports team owner? Which is more likely to spend that nickel in Cleveland? If the sports team owner pulls out how many more people does he employ than the bar owner? Consider the payroll taxes on just the Browns alone.... If the Browns moved again, would everyone currently spending $50+ per ticket (not to mention food, t-shirts, etc) suddenly decide to just put their cash in a big pile at the 50 yard line at First Energy stadium and have a bonfire? I'd wager they'd spend that money on other entertainment options in the area, thus having no significant negative effect on either payroll taxes or the local economy.

True, but would you rather that nickel go to the bar owner or the sports team owner? Which is more likely to spend that nickel in Cleveland?

The public housing project at Irishtown Bend, just north of Rt. 2 Oh thanks.

^forgive my ignorance, but where is Lakeview Terrace?

+1 also Deluxe Pastry in Ravenna.

^No mention on the flyer of which bus routes to take to get to the meeting locations... shame. (I'm half sarchastic.)

I noticed that too.

Wasn't aware of that. Thanks for the history of the site. I'm already anxious to see the photo thread of the views from the building. Damn those will be cool.

^^I'd add that the VA is still doing a little work and it looks like CMNH is going to be under construction before too much longer too.

In addition to the comments people have made already in regard to Intessa being a different market, Intessa also includes some non-residential space which won't be affected by this at all.

Thanks for the map, makes more sense that way. In my current opinion (I'll change my mind in 5 minutes), if you're going to move the waterfront line from the trench and make it a streetcar, I'd rather see it moved up to Lakeside so it goes through downtown. Then you could have it turn back southward at either 13th or 17th and loop around to Huron and enter Tower City through the tunnel.

They hung the structure of the chandelier last night.

From 30,000 feet up, I can see the potential for the conversion of the waterfront line into a standalone route, with a streetcar used as the primary connection from the Riverfront to the lakefront. With its southern terminus on the Scranton peninsula, which would be a half mile extension of the waterfront line south. this route would/could replace blue and green line trains from tower city. the route would have 1 train and run at 15-18 minute headways all day. cost would be ~1.3 million per year. Another option would be to move the waterfront line out of the trench and crate a 1 mile 2 way streetcar extension following west 3rd to Erie side Dr. with a terminus east of East 9th st near Burke Lakefront Airport. this would connect directly to the 1200 new apartments on Erieside, and provide ample value capture opportunities for the route. THE ISSUE IS HOW TO CONNECT to Tower City. from an operational perspective the Southern extension make it almost impossible to connect to Tower city in a smart way. an option is to remove connectivity to Tower city and build a transfer station on the viaduct for Rapid transit and a walkway from a Huron streetcar station to a station in the flats. either way creating a WYE in the flats for a Scranton peninsula route would be expensive to operate. I don't know, it would be difficult to support this route without direct connectivity to other transit routes (that includes buses). Ok, I've read your post 5 times and while it may be the head cold causing most of the confusion, I can't picture what you're talking about.