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Tongue in cheek, it would appear that the Dutch have shrank their river for PARKING. Clearly Cleveland must as well.

I used to live and work for the city of mentor. There a few places to photograph there that would be "urban" Ohio, or much even old ohio. There is garfields house, then just down the street old city hall and the school there that got converted to poorly selling condos, At 615 & and mentor ave. The old houses that are left are on hart street, maple street, burridge ave, and jackson street. Basicaly the area bound by 615, station street, mentor ave and jackson st. Next to the cemetery at the intersection of hopkins and jackson street, is a nice house, one of the osburne homes (of concrete and real-estate). He has another home on 615 nearish the 90 interchange that you cant see, but you can see the earthen embankments and driveway. An italianate home is on garfield road, near the newly built avrey denison plant. The mentor lagoons is good for nature shots, that we see from time to time on urban ohio. There are also some older homes on headlands road up by mentor headlands state beach park. Off of little mountain rd, there is some estate type home or something located inside wildwood park. Also parkins drive, off of little mountain road nearby is some estate homes something to do with perkins farm (the stonework entrance on perkins road and little mountain is the old rear entrance, and the entrance to the farm is located at chilliocothe and johnny cake ridge road. At readhurst and chilocothe the two homes on redhurst there I think are osburne related. There are 2 addtional osburne homes on chilocothe, but you can only see their diveways.

So we get the ability to have wind, but nobody is likely to use it due to nimby ordinaces. It would also appear the only feasable way to actually get one in your yard would be to buy and raze your neighbors house. Why regulate how close it is to the neighbors yard, when we dont regulate how close trees could be? They seem to fall down more regularly, as to opposed to a properly anchored turbine.

http://blog.cleveland.com/architecture/2009/04/if_wind_farms_come_to_clevelan.html Cleveland proposes ordinance to regulate aesthetics and safety of wind turbines Posted by Steven Litt / Plain Dealer Architecture Critic April 15, 2009 12:44PM Categories: Architecture, Art, Arts Impact, City Planning, Steven Litt David Duprey/Associated Press A wind farm in Lackawanna, N.Y., was built recently by First Wind, a green energy company that has stirred controversy in western New York State. There's a lot to love about wind energy. It's clean and green, and, depending on how they're designed, wind farms can be aesthetically pleasing. But what happens when a new industry -- no matter how beneficial-- enters a major American city with new structures that have the potential to change the look and feel of the entire community for better or worse? .......

It is the Cuyahoga Metropolitan Housing Authority, not the Cleveland.

The Cuyahoga river is still a working river, not all sights are going to be pretty. The silos, though uneappealing to the eye, adds visual interest to the river. The river and lake are inheriently boring to look at. Its the activity of boats on these waterways that makes them interesting. So long as the concrete silos are there, there will be boats there. They aren't worth fussing with, move them when the port leaves, and that segment of the river ceases to be a working part of the river. They just arent worth the big fuss right now.

They also seem to be in the process of replacing the old stations on superior with ones smiliar to the ones on the ECP. This evening the one in front of the fed was gone, and a new one was errected in front of the keith building.

Axe that park on E 55th marina. That concerned letter to strickland is weak at best. All they are loosing is rich man dock space. Old current port space, can be used for everything the letter complains about loosing BUT dock space. This spot is best for a port, its next to nothing but undersused industiral lands, a highway, and E 55th industrial spine. Best for trucks, instead of the mess of them navigating through the flats and downtown.

go with the willoughby brewpub if you like great lakes brewpub. Great lakes is better, but willoughby is simmilar in experience foods and beers.

In the 3rd pic that used to be an entrance for the amusement park, all carnie style rides there. It got taken down like maybe 2 years ago. The whole strip there has a county fair feel (minus the animals) there. The state park part is real nice, me and the family years ago rented a cabin on the lake there. It was spartan but more than adiquite for a 4 day vacation. Mentor-on-the-Lake had a simmilar area.

Looking at other teleco buildings, cleveland didn't seem to fair terribly

^I recall it was in those picture threads from that guy that had the pictures from cleveland in the 80's. Any case to keep topical, I can't wait till the rest of the buildings in the area gets there orginal facades back.

^ Yes that particular building is in the college town footprint of no architectural detail or relevence.

My one and only salient thought is homeowner associations are only useful in situations where your unit is attached to another unit. All other times it just seems to be a bunch of people micromanaging the lives of others to create homogeniality. Its purpose is to "preserve the value" of the neighborhoods, but I wouldn't pay other people to enforce a mythical value on a house.

The Beachland Ballroom and Tavern - Cleveland Surly Girl Saloon - Columbus Mitzi Jerman's Café - Cleveland Five O'Clock Bar - Lakewood Andyman's Treehouse - Columbus We all know what our own favorites are. What ones would you add, what ones would you remove? Discuss..

Banking - Federal Reserve

Moriarty's and the playhouse square theaters are the only apparent buisnesses that have continued to chug along in these photos.

Best thread in awhile for cleveland photo thereads. Hard to imagine that the city club building had a worse facade than it does now. I also like looking and streetscapes pre-X. Such as pre sohio building pre bank-one building. Its also kinda neat to see my bar, Moriarty's hasn't changed much through time. I wonder if you can send all of these pictures to cleveland memory project. I think they would eat this stuff up. They don't have alot of colorized pictures from the 70's-80's

Keep it simple hopefuly. I "hope" they will work to something like eliminateing the parking lot, make it a garage for all the space, and develop that lot. Built in such a manner anticpating the elimination of the marginal roads, e 9th ramps, and a downgraded shoreway.

The eyes on the oven should have been fire as well :D

Willard park is good spot for the county. Its a useless park, plenty of allready "useable" greenspace nearby. Just leave the few large trees and space for the free stamp, shoehorn the building into the rest of the space, build a new garage on the hill near the tracks. Sell/use/raze old county space as part of a improved convention center. EZ done for the county, but this all about bureaucracy and political favors when it comes to government. Trust site. Hotel loby in the rotunda. Hotel pool in the bottom of the tower for guests and residents of the tower. Lower half of the tower is hotel, condos on the upper half, condo entrance on the tower. Raze off the back half "connctor" between the euclid building and the tower. Perhaps take off some of the building they want to raze for a plaza. Shoehorn an automated parking garage in that space. Fix up the back half of the buildings to concel the garage, make it residential. Raze the buildings on huron, create tiered wedding cake style office building there. Brick up the alley...maybe fix up the CAC building for residential, make it feel a bit more europian.

I guess when you're effectively the economic engine of the city you can do whatever the hell you want, and the cleveland planing comission will look the other way.

Pocket parks, green spaces, and plazas in general suck in cleveland becasue there is an abundance of them vs the lack thereof people to occupy them. They all suffer from the same problems. Greenspaces are terrible because they are the well manaucred do not touch type. The plazas are terrible because generaly they are designed to make the "building look better" rather than have people in them. Alot of buildings were just poorly designed without filling out the entire parcel, and the rest is "greenspace and plaza" afterthought. If you go down E 9th street alone, it shows exactly all the problems with them. Parks I like or I think have potential. -The plaza next to gallereia. Galleria died, the area in general is too officey, but I think it has potential to be good. -The pocket park in the library.Thats the way pocket parks should fee, cozy and enveoloped by the city buildings, not a buffer near a road. -Star plaza. It just needs a bit more activity thats all. -The other plaza on the other end of huron. It needs some activity, perhaps if KD does something right with the buildings it will pick up some activity. -The paza in fron of pannis on huron. Its excellent outdoor cafe plaza on game days.

I'm glad that K&D/someone other than the "traditional players" got ahold of the tower. It was all bad from the begining. Too many dollars to be spent on what amounts to being just the rotunda and clean land and a bland structure. There are litteraly dozens of empty lots and much cheaper to demolish insigificant buildings that this could have been done in the first place. Now to focus on what K&D is doing. Yeah those 2 lowrise buildings need to go on huron. Hopefuly that inverted glass box is nowhere near whats going to be there. How would a hotel work? oengus1963 has a point about the valet thing, I don't think that they will be allowed to get a curb cut on our brand new euclid ave, E 9th could work?

I think the intent of residents to make large lot sizes is to make it "feel" rural with the sense of large land plots and houses. All it actually gets is the sterotypical suburban home on the minimum lot size. Developers will build within whatever constraints there are so long as there is demand.