smackem81

The easiest stuff to do on the near east side is warehouse conversion on superior. It starts from about where the plane dealer is to the innerbelt. Some of the buildings appear to be ~slightly~ converted into some live/work spaces, but others are still used for some type of warehousing/light industry. That being said, I don't think that is happening anytime soon. There seems to be alot more focus on the near west side fo town, than the east side. I see that area booming when CSU swollows up all of their surface lots with student housing/university buildings, as an area for students to live off-campus

Makes you wonder if the decision was actually made and analyzed for the best business decision. The way the article portrays its, it seems to be just a don’t want to move thing.

Conceptually I like the idea of a high rise over the tracks, so long as its cost feasable. Plop it down right in front of the FBI and the channel 3 news building. It would connect by eminint domaining some land to make e 13 extend down to the muni lot, and the waterfront line last stop.

Ive been out that way a few times. Its pretty desolate and empty for an area thats near the lake and grand river and is not totaly near absolutely nothing. The area is aproximately as big as all of downtown cleveland proper. .I guess this brownfield stuff is the reason why it was never developed.

City of Mentor has a lagoons on lake erie that was made with the same idea in mind, but it was the depression that killed it from happening, so it has no houses

Rich people pay money for taxes, the poor do not. Taxes are used to pay for city cervices that everyone benifits from. Gentrification typicaly pushes the crime out. Worry less about gentrification, worry more about people leaving the urban core for the burbs

Mentor is somewhere between an inersection and main street. It started off as the intersection of mentor ave (rt 20) and center street (rt 615). Historicaly its the area with the oldest buildings and oldest roads, and there is some traces of old mentor in that area still. Now its just all of mentor ave extending from wiloughby and painsville especially concentrated around great lakes mall

I honestly dont see midtown truely booming untill the area on St. Clair around the PD and when CSU really starts to build a critical mass around it. Im talking when CSU gets most/all of its master plan in place, with all the student housing. Eventualy the students will move off campus and still be going to school, logicaly Midtown is the next best place to be. Dumping all the new residential and all the various shops they would need, would be the cheapest there and still close to campus.

They are not fundamentaly different that the ones that flip adds, thats why the're isnt a problem with them. I think in the colombus case is becasue they are too large. Personaly I think they are distracting, I drive by them, I spend all my time trying to read across the freeway and then its gone too quick for me.

Beach club bistro is very good

"The shoreway" aka route 2 aka lakeland parkway, is combined with interstate 90, from the 90/2 interchange on the border of euclid and wickliff, they seperate at dead mans curve. The proposed shoreway changes occur at dead mans curve and to the west, i dont think it is phsyicaly possible to change anything from dead mans curve and to the east, nor do i think there are any plans for that part.

Dead mans curve is where I-90 curves away,and the shorway continues west. I also dont belive route 2(the shoreway) is a federaly designated highway as it turns into a regular roadway as it reaches perry in the east and in toledo in the west

The neighborhood surrounding CSU, and how the way CSU was built, and how it viewed the city in general; makes cleveland not a college town. College towns got rows of slum houses being rented by college students, in cleveland we got REAL slums.

Chinatown is too far from anything really, just a bit to far away from downtown, and just a bit too far away from quadrangle. It seems almost close enough to the 'arts dirstict' area from the cleveland PD to innerbelt on superor. The whole area going from E21 to E45 has its potential, but its still quite a ways off from feeling 'safe' and not being 'rough'

From what little bit im reading from the picture there ^^, is that saying basicaly a giant glass garage door for your wall? Seems interesting enough...

"When you bring the gay people in, the neighborhood gets nicer" Quote of urban renewal

Quay55 building on E55th is the only residential I can think of along there (there are plans in the works to add additional condos there too), that would be within easy distance of Waterfront Line, then there is a buch of residential off of St Clair. Currently all we have is a bunch of idustrial sites along the eastern shoreway, overlooking views of the lake. The driver for extending the Waterfront line is to develop a new residential area along its route, and getting rid of the industy. RTA talks about low ridership of the waterfront line, but its a damn botique line what did they expect? It goes to East bank of flats (dead empty), west 3rd, amtrack station, kinda near science and rock hall, and dead ends in a parking lot. RTA allways like to use the waterfront line as an excuse not to do more rail, but extending it and encourageing development further east near it, and make it a success as a result would be the middle finger to all the naysayers out there

^^ it would make more sense to put a rail line going the rail line just south of what you want on clifton. The tracks are going to be soon abandoned, you get half the work that essentialy needs to be done allready, and it would be much better use instead of them doing some lame rail to trails crap that I just sense will happen.

Baker's Department Store at 1001-1015 Euclid Ave right next to the bank on east 9th in cleveland, now a vacant building going for 3 million any takers?

Correct me if I'm wrong its been a long time since I have been there (haven't been there since I was a little kid in 80's living near the park) But when they put all those anti-erosion 'jack-like' things down by the lake, I distintly remember there being a fishing ledge/concrete observation thingy there. So that qualifys as lake access :) Anyhoo that looks so nice

The map is City Planning Commission's Interactive Map of Cleveland, its right on the main page of the city of clevelands website. Just click on layer control, to see aerial, zones, roads...etc. As to the origins of the rail line... Its just a line I came up with, nothing official anywhere. I just took what is a road that was bound by 2 major roads, and drew a line through it. It seemed like it would connect with a threroetical west shore trolley, so that was a bonus. It went through alot of parking lots, so hopefuly that would encourage TOD and redevelopment of those lots, worst case scenario people ride the line to park and travel accross town. It would work with the area that is being developed on E. 12. From E. 18, it could be run north to the waterfront line, or south to the trainsit center planned near the CSU convocation center

The physical size of the square has never changed, its the volume of use surrounding the square that has. Old picures.. not croweded, not many cars, and use of street cars. Here is a pie-in-the-sky idea 1)Brick/cobblestone public square area 2)take lanes off superior ontario, to narrow them 3) Run light rail line from E. 18 via rockwell/frankfort to W. 9 4) Run light rail connecting to theroretical west shore trolley starting at detroit-superior bridge

I go for the Ameritrust site. All the buildings just scream institutional. We got the nice classical old lookin Rotunda, which I agree would make great public space there; we got the tower itself which screams classical 60-70's era insitutional drab concrete look

Time to commit some crimes on sunday... The hunting mice thing I remember getting on the news maybe 5 or so months ago. Some kid was doing it to be nice to some elderly neighbor, he got fined or ceast and decist type of thing. It made the news, its one of those laws to keep pest control people their jobs

Tower pess is between E.19 and E.21. The whole setup seems alot more disconnected now that I see a picture of it. That being said I like the site #3, it just seems more nitch-like. It would be kinda nice to see the residential development creep along superior-payne area up to the cleveland-PD/tower press/that-church-on-payne..... and in the long run connect up with cleveland state university master plan residential development in the payne area