smackem81

I think ~some~ stuff is getting done when they are doing the BRT project. Like exclusive lanes around the square and some curb improvements. Yes, I agree the square has too wide of traffic lanes going around and through it to make it accessable to pedestrians. Soon as you hit 6 lanes wide, it become inheriently unfriendly to pedestrian use, not fun to run accross the street to get there. On top of that there isnt much of anyone there because the building around it arent being used fully, we got 2 empty department stores and a substandard mall there, as a result there isn't a critical mass of people just flowing around the area to even mak use of it.

^ yes I agree, ohio city would be extra ritzy expensive if it wasnt for the public housing there. Whats allready there is enough, and perhaps too much for that particular location. We shouldnt be using prime real estate, for people who effectively don't pay for it. People dont exactly like to live near giant "projects', and I don't want to see this giant project stall out any new investment in the area as a result. They would probably be better off selling the land to some developer, using the money raised to build projects elsewhere scattered around town, instead of concentrated in one place with prime real estate

Mentor, OH. Spwraltastic

I actualy caught a program on this on i think it was Idea Stream or the state of ohio (something like that) on PBS this past sunday. He was a promoter of the rail system, but he was saying there would only be a max speed of 85 mph on the lines, and there would be no bullet trains like japan. He said it would only beat times by car from Cleveland to Cincinnati by 15 min. Say it takes 2 tanks of gas from Cleveland to Cincinnati and back again so thats like anywhere from $50-$80, which can be distributed among all passengers that ride in the vehicle. They are talking $95 per person one way. People do not figure in depreciation costs or any other costs ouside of the gas to get there. It just wont work at those prices at those speeds. You need cheap bullet train travel on it own lines to overcome rail v car.

What about rest of the inner belt configuration? The whole thing is a mess. They need to flatten out dead mans curve, and improve all the entrance/exit ramps along the way to the area they show