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"Changes that create a false sense of historical development, such as adding conjectural features or elements from other historical properties, will not be undertaken”. Furthermore, the addition of this postmodern “decorative” element makes the building out of character with the adjacent buildings that were constructed as part of the Erieview redevelopment plan" And they should care why? What about modern buildings created to look like old buildings? What about all those buildings that got terrible new skins on them? Why does it matter if the building matches surrounding buildings?

diagonal split in the roads around E. 12th & Superior is payne ave. It got re-routed a bit when they made the housing project there and the Chesterfield??embassy suites.

What I am trying to say it wuldnt be a big deal if it flooded every so often if it wasnt a major traffic thoughfare. If people were using E 105th as a exit it wouldnt be much of a problem if MLK got flooded every so often. But every time it rains, news at 11:00, bunch of idiots swamp their cars going though MLK when if floods. If MLK realy didnt go anywhere this wouldnt be suuch a pressing issue.

Just my thought remove the freeway exchange from MLK, make a new one at E 105th. Take all the traffic out of the park basically, and who really cares if it floods? It might just promote some type of development along E 105th also.

I choose payne becuase its an east west route that actually goes to an up and up neighborhood, that is pretty desolate, that isnt a major traffic route, and that is wide enough that I could in theroy shrink the width to put a serperated bike path on.

No particular order, probably my own place to live first. 1) Buy up all the land between Payne ave and Rockwell ave. Build something urban warehouse asian-ish neighborhood. 2) Build my own lavish place to live. Something like Tudor city, and I live in the Tudor up top. 3) Build a new museum for the trolleys and the Crawford museum, under one roof. Somewhere in this new neighborhood, with an appearance hearken back to Lorain Carnegie Bridge. 4) Build something like the new dorms at case for Cleveland state fronting Payne ave. 5) Build a streetcar system down Payne. No idea where it would go from there, maybe working its way to university circle via wade park ave, or making its way to terminal tower via Huron rd. 6) Make a dedicated separated bike path down Payne ave. 7) Make 2 parking garages on Payne ave, one across from dave’s the other somewhere centrally located between the railroad bridge and E55th. 8) Infill urbanize payne ave between innerbelt and e55th 9) Land cap over innerbelt on payne ave. 10) Uncover and re-naturalize giddings brook, make it pseudo doan brook-ish.

Implamentation is the reason people dont bike. For the most part bike paths dont go much of anywhere outside of a park, and are used for all sorts things not related to biking. It makes it painfully difficult to get through to people to understand that you wouldnt push your baby or walk your dog in the road, so why would you do that on a bike path? Bike laws. A hodgepodge of laws that govern bike travel. Stuff like shaker heights requires a bike helmet, other cities dont. Places where you can and cannot bike.

It dosent matter how they try and dress it up, it will allways be seen as brunstucky to many clevelanders.

I used to do this type of stuff as a career path. Every year sometime during the summer during the event called coastweeks we would have an informal competiton with cleveland to come up with the most odd object found along the coastline. Every year cleveland seemed to outdo us, but one year we found a large section of a boat and we figured for the first time we had them beat.... But they ended up finding a body... It never ceased to amaze me what junk people littered everywhere, name it basically, I have found it. From cleaning up shorelines for 5 years I amassed 15 pounds of beach glass.

) The Old Arcade - Yes, Regulary 2) Westside Market - Yes, Monthly 3) Cleveland Musuem of Art - Few times when I was a child 4) Cleveland Musuem of Natural History - Few times when I was a child 5) Botanical Gardens - Just a few months ago 6) Servance Hall for Cleveland Orchestra - no 7) Playhouse Square (any of the playhouses) - Maybe a few years ago Cleveland Metroparks Zoo - Just last summer 9) Rock n' Roll HOF - Few moths ago with some out-of-towners 10) Great Lakes Science Center - When it first opened 11) Cleveland Browns Stadium (preferbly home game) - no 12) Quicken Loans Arena (preferably home game) - back when it was the gund for concerts and hockey 13) Jacob's Field (preferably home game) - Once a year 14) International Women's Air & Space Museum (Thanks 30 Rock!) - no 15) Little Italy - Few years back, not much of an italian food fan 16) Lakeview Cemetery - no 17) President Garfield's Monument (best view of Cleveland IMO) - no 18) Slavic Village - no 19) Rockefeller Cultural Gardens - no 20) Rockefeller Greenhouse - no 21) Western Reserve Historical Society - no 22) E. 4th nightlife - Yes 23) W. 6th nightlife - Yes 24) Cleveland Public Library downtown - Just the little park part one sunny day recently 25) The Nautica Queen Cruise Ship (dinner or cruise) - no 26) Edgewater Park - no 27) Case ImPROV/play or West Bank comedy club - cabriolet da da 28) Great Lakes Brewery - whenever I'm at the market 29) Shaker Square - handfull of times 30) Ohio City - whenever Im at GLB WSM or want some phenom penn 31) Tremont - no 32) Goodtime III - year or 2 ago 33) Steamship William G. Mather Museum - no 34) On top of Terminal Tower? (just curious ) - when I was a child, before they closed it EVENTS: 1) Feast of the Assumption (Little Italy) - no 2) St Patty's Day Parade - about every other year 3) Cleveland Air show - maybe 3 times or so 4) Cleveland Grand Prix - qualifiers yes, race no, back when it first started 5) International Film Festival - no 6) Harvest Festival (Slavic Village) - no 7) Ingenuity - no Hessler Street Fair (not this year though!) - no 9) Greek Orthodox Festival - no 10) Cleveland Marathon (Anyone run in this?) - no 11) Gravity Games - no 12) CMJ Rock Hall Music Fest - no

Punch, Its consensus, and thats not a bad thing at all. I realize it says cleveland playhouse, and not playhouse square, just a brain fart. Maybe still it can be placed on E14th and prospect or euclid and e 17th. Convocation center, move it so its within CSU campus, anywhere where all the flat lots are is ok. East Side market, move it so its closer to university circle residental nodes.

Cleveland Clinic - E55th - 65th, between cheser and Carnegie. Red Line - all along detroit-Superior, untill reaching lakewood and e. cleveland, returning to its current path. Browns Stadium - Just south of central inetrchange (I think it was originaly a proposed location) Great lakes science center/rnrhof - univercity circle (i think all museums should be here) Avenue district - fine where it is Stonebrige - fine where it is Playhouse square - fine, maybe a bit more down E14th Port - where burke is now. sherwin williams - somehere else than on the river tower city amptheatre - on the parking lot behind tower city or just gone.

Willoughby, Eastlake, Willowick, Wickliffe, could work. Their housing prices are realtively cheap, and have abundant stock of small single family homes available. Crime rates are low, schools are adiqute, and are about halfway from the job in concord and cleveland. Steer clear of mentor, geauga county, and anything east of mentor. As these places are near the edge of nothingness, are experiencing heavy sprawl, and whose housing prices are a bit high for what you get. I know this is about pro-urban board, but I think one of those communities might offer something you're looking for. I also recomend checking out realtyone.com or howardhanna.com to get an idea of what kinds of housing prices and what types of housing are available in various communities. And finnaly, I would recomend renting before buying, till you get the lay of the land and have a better sense of what you want in commute times, ammenites, and housing stock.

I think his comment was in jest. Loosing the strip club will be a loss for ave district.

As I recall the buildings under threat by ODOT that were near the trench and on superior ave, were on the other side of the innerbelt. The particular building of interest, which I belive contains a dainels furnature warehouse, and is in at least ~some~ photo thread on here; is not part of the designated historic district. Its a real shame, it really should be, its aproxmimately the same age and same style as the ones that got protected.

Looks like the stretch of superior from the PD to the innerbelt. I don't think that really changes what is currently being done there. Its good it got the designation, prevents people from doing dumb stuff to the nice stuff thats still there.

1) Brush, his electric street lamps. 2) James A Garfield, Garfield monument, Lakeview cemetary 3) ? 4) Slider 5) severance hall, air force one 6) something with dinosuars at cleveland museum of natrual history 7)? 8) Palace theatre 9) The silver chisel, one cleveland center 10) Bruce the spruce?

Something simple as BUS only lanes during rush AM/PM hour periods on the curb lanes would be way for gradual slide into having dedicated BRT in the future.

1st) Something as close to as possible as raw unfinished space as possible. Preferably from a warehouse first, then a converted office space. Provided its not completely away from some type of occupied neighborhood. Something like the payne ave lofts fits my ideal. I like the no frills work they have done on the insde. It allows me to upgrade and change things as I can afford it. I prefer to be able to design the interrior as I want to, not from the 3 choices the developer has on hand. 2nd) go with stonebridge, it has a great view. Mixed feelings about the glass concerning heating and cooling issues. Allthough probably not much different from the issues surround an old warehouse. 3rd) water street, its a price type of thing. I would rather go with a more spacious warehouse for cheaper elsewhere first. 4th) Townhouse. If I had kids or a dog or had the desire for planting and gardening, I would go this route.

It was just and idea I had how a bike park could better work. I have a prefrence for something like I quickly drew up located on the northwest corner. The article states the bike park plan to be in the northeast corner. The froggy eats pigs ass building is the building in question to be demo'ed and the planned location of the bike park.

It would be a few parcels to aquire, and demolition of a uninspired building. This is what I picture how a bike park could work along the line. Construction along the ECP should be built to urban context standards. It takes a difficult shaped lot and maxes it out. Back parts an expert zone, front beginer. Mixed use building frontage, some type of bike shop with living space up top (yellow). Additionaly they could have indoor part much like that west side location (light blue). More reseidential buildings to fill out other parts of the block (brown).

If it gets done (the bike park), it needs to be done in such a manner that its not actually built up onto euclid and is using mostly useless land near the tracks. For instance the southeast corner where all the police cars would work or the northwest corner tucked up near the tracks. Prime frontage land shouldnt be grenspace. Midtown has a master plan stick with it, not this dump the land manuver just because somebody will do something with it.

Probably only ones that I would consider a cannidate for razing are the low rise "green roof" warehouses on E34 (functionaly useful and being used, but perhaps not for long range mixed re-use), the wedged triangular building (i dont see how this can be effectively re-used), along with some non-orginal loading bay structures. Other than those few things, taking down the other stuff takes away from alot of what tyler village is.

Yes I agree. Ohio is a 3 city state, all of equal importance. Also there is no linkage to detriot? This particular plan is too chicago centered.

I saw beachwood and I think north olmstead.