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I am mixed about the idea of a park in the middle. I dont like the idea of fancy bus stops in a middle of a park. It will be a stop used by only clinic people, I want all stops along the silver line be used by as many groups of people as possible. I dont like the idea of pointless meandering paths, with special landscaped lawns and flowerbeads. Ever been to a college campus? The smart ones put down the paths after they determine the shortest path between 2 buildings or after people have beat down the grass to dirt. If the paths dont lead to the shotest distance, they dont get used and everything gets trampled. I try and think the good of this would be like the train that goes through portlands campus. I just hope that the clinic landscapes wisley to best use of the greenspace, rather than what they think would look pretty.

http://www.wkyc.com/video/player.aspx?aid=25028&bw=hi Video of the project, it shows conceptual drawings of it, and at about 1:54 it shows a "better" site plan of the clinic. Contains pointless meandering sidewalks.

ECP stops at 89th, 93rd, 100th, 105th. Making euclid ave innothing but ECP buss lanes, cleveland clinic campus space, and private greenspace, makes the whole segment useless. I cleveland clinic gets its way, I demand that they pay for all costs incurred for making the 93rd and 100th stops. This is a transportation network, not a circulator bus for cleveland clinic workers.

Im guessing for non-neighborhood people to drive to the market in the powerhouse.

I would like to see the whole thing demo-ed, its a spectacular waste of waterfront. IF we were to determine that we MUST have an airport I would like to see it demo-ed and move up to the nothren part of the area, and use the newly vacant land along north marginal into a new neighborhood.

I perfer dairy king in nearby burton :D

You got maps from CSU memory project, I know cause I have them too.

I saw a PBS special specfically delt with why nations like the united states has hellicopters, and other nations have hardly anything at all. To sum it up it had to with the specific locational advantages each people had back in pre-historic times. Thoes areas that were were able to grow cereal grains (north america/messopotanian/europe/china) in excess supply were able to spend less of their time just trying to get food to stay alive, and dedicate themselves to doing other things. That led to alot of counties with less developed technologies that put them in the position to be "exploited" the way they are now

Where is that "flatiron building" covered by ivy? I tried finding it on a map, but alas I cant get a fix on it. It does look like a cool building to live in maybe or something.

Those monorails at WVU were the prototype for the ones that they used in disney. They are kina cool to ride, it has its fair share of problems. Breaks down for some random reason, be it racoon dies on the tracks or storm knocks out the power, then getting stuck inside for a couple of hours. They are what I picture what would happen when people have those pipe dreams of single passenger mass transit, and I have ridden those monorail cars enough to know its hardly feasable.

I hope they think to incorporate some type of steps from W25th down to the river.

The greenway pass through spot is left realtively open, mostly hall space and dining in this plan. It appears that there will be a continuing of the designed concrete from the outside to the inside to the other side. Its probably going to work something like greenway, open glassy area, greenway on the other side. Keeping all these offices being moved in mind, what will be left in the university center? University Center is/will be demolished and be replaced with a new structure. What of these offices will make their way back to there?

Looks great, I wonder how much functional space it will add. The first floor of main classroom stairwells and lecture halls dosnet exactly seem to lend itself to good floorplates. I just wonder what this will do to the campus greenway they had in the master plans. I thought the greenway was going to connect right through the building (right where the rendering is) onto the proposed greenway that will replace the chester annex on the other side. Also in the master plans there are plans to extend the plaza west. Parking bays will have to be removed to do this. To remove parking bays, new garages will have to be made first

I also saw a thing on progressive urban/realty one that walker weeks building is starting to go condo. I think alot of the recent conversions have to do with when tax credit restrictions expiring. I just wonder if/when we will see more new rentals construction, it needs a mix so people can move up the housing chain downtown.

I think SEIU building is just being bought because it dosent fit with the master plan and is surrounded by the campus. Much like the bakers union building was aquired.

Aw man I like the jungle house. Nothing says i got 40 cats in my house and get off my lawn like a bunch overgrown stuff in the yard.

I think chinatown will make some significant advances when the tyler village project gets built/renovated/done.

Well we know cleveland metropolitan housing authority owns the the best hillside in ohio city. I really feel that they should sell it off, they know they cant develop it, to a person that isnt going to mise on it. The second best hills is owned by Forest City on duck island, I think whomever is in charge of irish bend townhouses owns some of it too, that whole area is controled by alot of people north of loain carnegie bridge. Most of the river really has no hills along it, whatever hills that were along most of the river has been flattened out by all the industry that used to be there.

I like it, greener would be nicer, but its all balconys on that side. It will get as green as the condo owners want it to be

All the ghostbusters ones were in new york. I remember seeing an actual tv special (or maybe it was forgotten NY) that showed the all the ghost busters buildings.

Kenosha works well because it connects in with a chicago commuter line. I would say that the way that this line would work is if a lorain-cleveland commuter line is in place.

It used to be a hotel. Ganked off emporis. Allerton was a popular hotel chain from the 1920s designed with amenities specifically for convention goers. One of the most well known hotels of the chain was located on Chicago's Magnificent Mile. I remember like a year or 2 there was a domestic dispute that ended in a murder in that building. Its one of what I personaly think is among the mostly neglected neat looking buildings in cleveland.

Oh man drive through pizza. Drive through subway and taco bell is messy enough

I was looking at the rendering concept site on the link provided, and google earth, and I noticed a rail station. What is it used for? I recall the rail station is over by quaker square.

We need to come up with some general agreements as to weather we consider route numbers as the "official route" of the road. Route numbers seem to have some possible plays as to the name the road will get. Rt 20 is Euclid Ave all the way through to Willoughby, Euclid ave ends mentor ave begins as Rt 20. Old maps had this transfer spot at the public square in Willoughby originally, but now (rt 20) it kind of snakes around and meets up where mentor ave and vine street is. Rt 20 continues as mentor ave until it reaches Painesville city. Rt 20 continues onto E/W Erie street in Painesville, and mentor ave dead ends into the square in Painesville. Rt 20 in Painesville Township becomes north ridge road. Rt 20 becomes Main Street in Geneva.... beyond that I don’t bother driving that far. South ridge road (except for a small stretch in Madison its named main st), the parallel road to Rt 20 in lake county , is rt 84. In Painesville city it gets routed all over the place picking up new names along the way. On its way back out of Painesville rt 84 picks up the name Johnnycake ridge road. While meandering through mentor the old routing of presumably of Johnnycake Ridge Rd branches off named “Old Johnnycake”. Rt 84 continues on through Willoughby, where it then picks up the name of Ridge Rd. In Willoughby hills Rt 84 becomes Bishop Rd. It continues on as Bishop until it reaches Wilson mills rd, Rt 84 then picks up the name Brainard rd. SR 87 through Geauga county is Kinsman US 422 through Cleveland is Kinsman There is an old kinsman rd off of SOM in woodmere, that falls in line with Chagrin Blvd. ^^ill let someone else explain that one out Then there is cedar rd. That one is all messed up because it gets all broken up weird (you can see it easily on Google earth). It dies out on chagrin river rd, presumably because they made the park there. It jumps north then re-appears off of county line road, presumably on the other side of the park there. Cedar Rd continues on until it dies out into Sperry rd. Then Cedar Road shows up again to the south, back in alignment with Cedar Rd all the way back in the Heights, but it gets broken up by yet another park area, picks back up again and ultimately dies on Auburn road. What I’m most glad of is that 322 is always Mayfield Rd no matter where I am, except for the part where it become the Chester ave incity-freeway. I am also glad that Fairmont Blvd is always Fairmont Blvd. I only know this shit cause I drive it, any more is rambling.