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Barneyboy, I don't recall those three buildings at all, but perhaps they were already gone when I came in '73. In any case, the one with the Gothic detailing is kinda interesting. I'm guessing the one in the middle is an old building that was given a new facade in the '30s-50s. But what about news about the complex planned there? It looks fine to me - just what i'd like to see.

Regarding the shopping strip at SE corner of West 25th and Lorain, does anyone recall what was there before that? I'd like to know what happened to the plans for a more appropriate development to go up there,

Thanks. In that case, I've been following Tremont Black, which appears do be completed. I like the look!

There are so many recent apartment houses and townhouse groupings being built in the city of Cleveland alone - why on earth can't there be one successful development for the Lee-Silsby-Meadowbrook triangle??? Ohio City, which is soon to have at least six new large apartment houses - in some cases with commercial and even offices - in its Hingetown district; it's very "hot" now, but isn't Cedar Lee, with all its trendy restaurants and theaters - also "hot?" We were so close with several projects in the oast ten years; does anyone know of any recent proposals that have any validity?

Where in Tremont are these "Tremont Black townhomes?" There are now hundreds and hundreds of townhouses - attatched and detatched - in Tremont. Thank you.

I'm seeing now someone posted last June at Cleveland meeting agenda that listed the renovation of the former Fulton Riad Bakery building. I don't think it's been started, though. Does anyone know what's going on with that projeect? As I said above, the building really does look bad - amid a bunch of restored/renovated buildings that look great!

Great!

Oh. I was getting confused between discussion of the new CIA dormitory and the IBM building.

What does the term "rough neighborhood" refer to? It can't be it's difficult to get someone to conceive new construction there; I think of it the opposite - a very "in" neighborhood. I worked at the Cleveland Institute of Art almost eight years. First I thought the building, opened in 1956, was pretty bland, then when I found out Freiberger Library next door was built the same time, after I had pictured Freiberger as being from the '40s or evey '30s, I came to appreciate the CIA building more. I think of it as sort of Miesian, though not the best example, and related to the Bauhaus but what was going on in better low-rise office buildings in the '50s. Of course, it was designed for a small art college, and windows were important for the studios. Actually, I'd hate to see it go, but I'd also like so see something dramatic there, like another apartment highrise. However, it would be possible for Case and the Art Museum to maintain but building for art and/or art history classes and still build on the property.

As far as "spilling into East Cleveland," there's more. Incidentally, it sounds like you're referring to 27 Coltman, the luxury project above the tracks, but it's in Cleveland. There are the relatively new complex at Euclid and Lakeview Road; they've been referred to as University Circle-related but being new in East Cleveland. Also, if you recall, there was a project to demolish a decent commercial building close to the cemetery entrance on the east side of Euclid. It's potentially a nice building with interesting architecture; I haven't seen anything about that project for months. I believe it's actually in Mary-Peal Schofield's book on Cleveland architecture from the '70s. I hope that project is caput. There's just oh-so mu ch vacant land in the area for promising new development.

Concerning Greenbrier, I looked quickly from the north yesterday and the house facing Randall looked pretty nice - at least on the side. Does that have to go? There are the two poor-looking houses onBridge (I know - the age of at least one came up here).

I'm not familiar with this at all. Are you referring to a proposal for an outdoor food market - presumably only in the warmer months - to go across Lorain where the small shopping strip stands? The last I heard was that was to be apartments and perhaps a development with apartments and perhaps limited commercial - i.e. storefronts.... However, some sort of outdoor market (well covered, I suppose) actually appears there, it would be still another feature that would make our Market District more resemble the Pike Place Market District in Seattle.

Do you have the date for the "Crain's?" Bad error! Is it possible it was in the "corrections" column at a later date?

My Western Reserve Architectural Historians had a great tour of the CIA last year, and the President, who led the tour, mentioned the dormitory plans at that time.

Why is the burnt-out building on Payne near Asiatown Plaza still standing? Is someone planning to save it?

Really, really bad shape!

I see nothing wrong with a more staggered facade - e.g. not all units having the same setback. Not as long as the setback of the one closest to the sidewalk is legally set back enough. I'd rather see at least two or more forward houses than one, though.

Thanks, but I didn't see that kind of space at all there - not for the apartment project shown above. There's a tidy back yard for the corner house on Franklin and not much else.

I'm confused; is the Vine Court Townhomes project the same as that which has been going up for months, which replaced the ugly former factory building? My confusion stems from the appearance of drawings for the Cine Courts project appearing here very recently, while the project was introduced here over a year ago. I'm there now and don't see enough land for two projects right here.

Someone mentioned that small grocery store in one of the posts. Is that to remain? Move into the new building? I see the jazz place is actually supposed to move in.

But a parking lot was just constructed just to the west of Innova, across East 97th Street. Are you referring to construction ready to start just east of Innova?

The previous building wasn't just "functional"; it was the 1910 Hubbard House - a truly beautiful former residence whuch stood as one of the fine but now dwindling Wade Park Allotment houses and, in this case, it was located on what used to be the impressive, sweeping Magnolia Drive. Fortunately there's yet a very similar house, in reverse, on East 108th. I've posted about and posted photos regarding the situation in this forum.... However, I'll just come out and say it. The addition looks somewhat better than I had imagined. The materials look quality, and the roof looks like real slate! That's almost unheard of in this region and must have cost a fortune! Come to think of it, I think the house had slate too, though I could be mistaken. :-o Read more: http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,2977.2625.html#ixzz4NIYFBe1k

What is going on with the former Sears building, please? Renovation?Remodeling, demolition? The scaffolding has been up many weeks.

The houses just to the north of the Hope Memorial Bridge had already looked bad when I moved here 43 years ago, so I really don't miss them. If the two houses that remain, it looks like 1980 West 19th will come down any day niw, but what on earth is going on with tge very last house in this tiny locale - the house to the north of Moore Court, which heads west off West 20th Street? From Moore I can't tell if this house is entirely new, a renovation (abandoned?) rehab job, or, if somewhat remodeled, is now in the process of demolition. If it's to stay, what on earth is the storyof its being there by itself? And what's the development now planned for the north end of West 20th???

Great time yesterday to be in University Circle! Welcome banners with many languages displayed on Euclid Avenue, new posts offering history information in the district, and lots of new students and returning students - many with parents - walking around or at special events. The luxury apartment tower is up to ground level on the Children's Museum site, and construction of the more modest apartment house, on the site of Mi Pueblo, has begun (the land was just considered "too valuable"). As for the big addition to the Insulata Alumni House, the subject of several of my posts last year due to my disgust for the sacrifice of still another beautiful, original Wade Park Allotment residence, I must say it's coming out better than I might have expected. The brickwork is actually a little more interesting than that of the main building, another former grand house, and the new roof is slate - almost unheard of with new construction in these here parts. Could it be the pieces of slate were taken from the sacrificed Hubbard house?