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A lot of publicity about those two apartment houses along Drexmore, but across East 130th the once beautiful pair of buildings (or they they connected?) with the arches looks pretty bad, too. Does anyone know the story about these? Also, does anyone know if Shaker Square Apartments is planning to purchase more buildings in the area? Their properties look at least respectable.

"Upthread" - tee hee.... You guys certain have come up with a lot of intelligent scenarios that might take place that this particular Heinen's. I'm sure some of you are familiar with downtown-type supermarkets and how they stay in business without good parking. As for the taxi suggestion and Cleveland becoming more "urban," I haven't noticed more taxis around Greater Cleveland. Do downtown residents actually call taxis a lot? If someone calls a taxi to go to a supermarket are you suggesting customers will be dropped off and call a cab when they're ready to leave, or that there will be a line of taxis outside Heinen's on the street, which I don't think will or can happen. I grew up in downtown Rochester, which until the late 1980s or so had both Sibley's Grocery Department - a supermarket connected with a major department store - and a chain supermarket connected with Midtown Plaza. They're both long gone, though there are surely many more well-off downtown residents now than then, as in all American cities. I'm sure these markets were getting the uses you guys are mentioning here, but I know at least the Sibley's market offered delivery service to customers for many decades and hence did well. I know many went downtown to shop and it was part of their trip, let alone all the office workers.

It's all wonderful, in every way, except one little tidbit: many people who work downtown or who come there for business, and probably a good share of Greater Clevelanders, still want to purchase their heavy loads of grocerites and walk right out to the large, open parking lot with the bags A workman last Friday also confirmed to me, with confidence, they are still planning to open in February. I asked if there's a date and he said "probably late February."

I just found out about this particular forum. Is the Lakewood portion finished? It doesn't look like any of the curbs were rebuilt. Are all the new medians with trees on the Cleveland side?

I have to confess I didn't find the Schofield Building - once the old brick was again exposed and cleaned - all that appealing. The red tone seemed odd and I thought it clashed with neighboring buildings. In fact, at times the brick reminded me of so many old brick buildings that are painted red. However, with most of the brickwork done, I find the building far more likable and actually quite beautiful. With a lot of sculptural effects restored or recreated, it makes a huge difference. I'm taken with the building's name spelled out, plus the year of construction displayed, which I didn't realize were features of the original facade, and the subtle contrast between the red bricks and the material of the sculpture is really very attractive. Now, like many of you, I am anxious to see this hotel open. Is this to be classified as another of Cleveland's new "luxury" hotels? I'm not that familiar with the chain, and it's not that easy to tell from the websites.

Is this the East 65th Street storefront that's been so many food-related establishments in the past 10+ years - coffee houses, etc.? I guess it must be.

I don't get to Slavic Village too frequently, but how far has the streetscape construction gotten, so far? I haven't seen any mention here of it's having started, but I saw in an article street construction is going on there. Is this the streetscape project or resurfacing/repairing the street. Fleet Avenue?

Please note - the article's headline only refers to "police headquarters" and how brief the mention is of any house, let alone a well built beautiful mansion. I imagine the author couldn't care less. That's been the history of what has become of the Wade Park Allotment mansions but I've always been hoping, in this age of preservation movement, it would settle down and people would care each time a building is threatened. There was an issue with Mt. Zion Congregational Church's wanting to demolished its two houses but, with the vicinity becoming a Cleveland Landmark District, both houses are remaining (as far as I know) and at least the magnificent one is being restored/renovated. I thought the Arts and Crafts house at Wade Park Avenue and E. 115th St. was also threatened with the new student housing but the project only goes up to the house lot's border. The last of these houses I can think of was the ZBT mansion on Bellflower, where there is now a parking lot.

What do you mean? Someone or a group has to propose a certain street, district, or neighborhood be considered for Cleveland Landmark status, then the busywork has to be done, and eventually, yes - the City Council has to approve it. Of course, the Landmarks Commission fits in there, also. Well, this series of events hasn't taken place on Juniper Drive, and the area never will be proposed because so many of the wonderful, older buildings have been demolished. :-( However, just to the south, are the Glidden mansion and other top-notch campus architectural examples, as well.

The block in question is NOT in the Cleveland Historic District. How unfortunate!

They could expand behind, for example. I don't believe there's a carriage house there.

Not only is the Euclid Beach Carousel opening to the public on Sunday but Uptown's bowling alley/restaurant is opening two days earlier - on Friday! They've got a lot of tables out on the sidewalk; I wonder if they'll be out all winter. Colorful bowling balls are already in place. The alleys could be seen from the outside for weeks. 8-) As for the carousel, they didn't rebuild the center much like it was, but the decorations from the edge inward, surrounding the horses and chariots, look very much like the old photos. I think the framework over the whole thing might possibly be of the dimensions of the original roofline, or it might be somewhat shorter. Anyway, I saw it today and it's really beautiful, of course. And there sure were a lot of hassels to go through for the project to get to this stage.... 8-)

A plan to sacrifice one of the few remaining Wade Park Allotment beauties with a characterless addition to the Case Alumni House is disgusting! :shoot: Very bad news. The house on that site looks like a lot in better parts of Cleveland Heights, but it is integral to the fabric of what is left of these residences in University Circle. And, incidentally, the addition looks exceedingly mediocre. I sure wish something else could be done, like incorporating the neighbor into the complex. Connecting the two former houses, like the Music Settlement done is not ideal but a sure better solution. NO MORE UNIVERSITY CIRCLE HOUSES REMAINING FROM THE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT GLORY DAYS SHOULD BE LOST! This has gone on for many decades and, with new interest in preservation, as well as old city neighborhoods, it's time for this atrocity to end. If this site isn't in the Magnolia-Wade Park Historic District it certainly should be. This stretch, of course, was indeed on what was Magnolia Drive - a name I sure wish it would be once again named. :cry:

What would it take for old-style balconies to reappear at the Alcazar. They had added a lot to the charm and the romantic element of the structure. I recall when the Gaede and Serne firm worked on renovating it and the decision to remove ALL of them, and not replace any, came up, and it's obvious what was decided. The Landmark Commission was unable to have influence in this matter. Ah, what money can do for the finer things in life.... :-(

I don't care for bricked-in windows either, but what kind of "decoration" would you like to see the whole, missing window become? I've seen many a building built with fake bricked-in windows; it's been going on for decades, at least. A continuation of the "fake ruins" concept, which was surely done in the 18th century in Europe. It was considered "romantic," then....

Why compare U of M with CSU? imho comparisons of cities, neighborhoods, campuses, etc. are basically "open season." Someone chooses to be in a big city, tiny village, etc. - the person is the consistency and one can always try comparing. Exploring how various communities differ and have things in common gets extremely, extremely fascinating!

Before I go the distance to actually go there, has the streetscape project for Fleet Avenue begun yet. The last time I mentioned how dreary it looks someone chimed out there is indeed a major improvement project set to begin late this year, I believe. Thanks.

The "Tink" is not really a disrespectful name, because its the very nickname its donor, Tinkham Veale III, went by.

Good to see some of the first floor but bad if one can no longer walk on that side of East Ninth Street!

Yes, yes, - I changed it to "Lorain" Avenue. Does anyone have a current photo of the house at that corner of Jay and & W. 30th? I can only picture several smaller houses now that fill that space. I can look on Google Maps....

Cruises can be quite enjoyable. It's curses that can be a problem.... I too find the parking difficult - particularly on a Saturday afternoon. I am willing to walk some distance, however, and five or six blocks away from the WSF should have a lot of places. What happened to the small residential project at Lorain and Fulton? What happened to the big project planned for the area around the slopes above Columbus Road? When it was first announced on a large scale several buildings up on Lorain were already being demolished (and said to be in connection with this project) but that's ALL I've seen so far. Absolutely nothing.

It looks like the Larchmere streetscape project, as far as the walks, curbs, and street paving, will indeed be finished by the Nov. 6th ribbon-cutting ceremony. What about the oversized chairs. It sure would be nice if they're installed before winter, too. I'm sorry that more attractive, "district" streetlights were not included in this project, as they were in Gordon Square, Kamm's Corners, and Waterloo (though one side of the street only). Would that require burying of the wires on Larchmere, or might this already have been accomplished? It's all a matter of money, I suppose....

I'm thrilled about the Heinen's and how the whole complex is turning out. However, it's difficult to get out of my mind the concept of one's doing their major supermarket shopping there - like for the week - and then having to carry the packages or take the cart far away. I know many cities have and have had downtown supermarkets, without nearby parking lots, but it's hard to imagine people buying a lot. Wonder if they'll deliver, like in the olden days. Perhaps at a relatively high cost?

Sorry - I didn't read that carefully. I thought it referred to an entrance to Asiatown, which would be far more interesting. However, the Asia Plaza entrance looks good.

Clueness, Cleveland - Please let's not get carried away with the name "Uptown." These lighting sculptures are to be throughout the Euclid strip along the whole University Circle stetch.