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Now, are we all in agreement Duck Island is within Tremont? I can't quite see property that goes up to where that Bridgeview Cafe was as being Tremont when it was right down the street from the West Side Market and its parking lot. Where's the border, then? Where's the Cleveland Planning District border in relation to Duck Island. What about Columbus Road around the former B&O station, for example? Seems like that's just "The Flats."

KJP - Thanks. It really helps when one shares a link on this very large conglomeration of forums.

Jay Lofts has been delayed over and over again. Some work is done and then it looks like nothing. Right now I'd assume something is going on with the first floor facade covered over, but who knows? Who's behind this project? What else have they completed?

Does anyone know if there's a new potential development being discussed for the Lee/Meadowbrook triangle? There was an RFP many menths ago, but I've neither seen nor heard anything. I was devastated when the last project quickly fizzled out. Totally disgusted. What has anyone heard that might have any merit???

Is this thread within this forum or its own? I've seen plans but not information on how the buildings would go up a steep slope. :yap:

What are the plans for the Envy Building site? Just a parking lot. I'd like to see the interesting, diverse shopping strip continued further south.

Good to see that shabby cafe building gone. None of the houses and other buildings remaining in the area look too hot. I take it everything seen from Lorain is to go. Does the plan, then, call for the project coming up to Lorain and going way down the slope? Lots of steps?

http://plainpress.wordpress.com/2013/12/10/street-name-signs-designate-ohio-city-historic-district/#comment-464 This article from a recent Plain Press answers most of these questions. However, when the first edition of AIA's Guide to Cleveland Architecture came out in 1991 there were already three Cleveland Historic Districts in the vicinity: Ohio City, Franklin Circle, and Market Square. I hope the idea spreads to other Historic Districts in Cleveland - particularly where streets date from pre-1907. I know the Archwood Avenue area has decorations added to some of their signs, as in Little Italy. :clap:

Yes, but just a few blocks. Generally it's not done when a street ice thats rehabbed. Now I'd like to know if any other historic districts are getting new street signs that have the old street names. How was it decided Ohio City (though only certain intersections, so far) would get these and who was it paid? What about Tremont, for example? Is there a plan to do this in all Cleveland Historic Districts? I notice the signs in the Ohio City/Market Square area just say "Historic District," which makes me wonder if the City will be doing these sings in other neighborhoods? Does anyone have an idea if that's the plan? I notice that pastry cafe at Lorain and W. 29th closes earlier in the day now. Doesn't look like a good sign. And I wonder how many people will pay like $7.50 for a decent cup of frozen yogurt - particularly in the winter....

It would cost a fortune to bury wires on all the streets in the historic district(s) that make Ohio City. It's been done on a small scale in Greater Cleveland with the older areas but never a whole district. And then all new lights. A zillion dollars and nobody would find it worth it. In many other cities it was done originally in the neighborhoods. We have only as far to go, for example, as Akron or Canton, where neighborhoods from the early 1900s and later have attractive, decorative light poles. Of course, Ohio City would be a district where an older style would be appropriate. The ultimate historic lighting is Beacon Hill, Boston.

I'm interpreting that remark as implying you don't find that station too "big city." Is that the idea? :-D

I like the new street signs in Ohio City which say "historic district" and, for the numbered streets, give the pre-1907 street names. Also they went back to adding the red-and-white gingerbread-inspired fan decorations. I hope eventually all the street signs have these. Right now only the corners along the more main streets seem to have the old names, if any. I always wish all the wires were buried and distinctive, historic streetlights could be installed like in so many cities, but I know that's an impossible dream. The best we can expect, it seems, are the ones around Market Square - and even those are interspersed with the modern light poles.

But they haven't begun yet, have they? Then didn't they have a "ceremonial" groundbreaking? The closer to Mayfield the better. I have this image of people getting on the Rapid from places like Brookpark Road and getting off in Little Italy to go to the restaurants or visit the shops, and then go back via Rapid later. Just like in big cities. Hope it happens!

I posted a question here but now have the answers.

I thought they broke ground on the new University Circle/Little Italy Rapid station but I drove there the other day and saw no construction of any kind. Did it begin or not? How close to Mayfield is it supposed to be?

There's already residential on PS, as most of us know. I'd much rather new housing stimulate a district of downtown about five blocks away and save PS for offices/commercial. Sure wish another exciting project would be announced for that crummy parking lot space by the nw quadrant. :?

Just losing the station, alone, in 1973 was a great architectural loss. :-(

Photo looks to me like a minimalist but powerful design - not a "placeholder" at all but a strong statement complimenting the Tudor Arms, etc.

What are the chances the owner is going to "do the right thing" and have the small tower reconstructed? It really had been an enhancement to the building and would make it still more striking. As an aside, there was also one on the highrise that stood where the PNC tower is. :police:

This might be slightly east of our coverage area in this forum, but since the "Filling In...." forum has been cut off I'm askin' here.... I note that where What was originally Church of the Epiphany was demolished earlier this year, at Euclid and East 86th, some good-hearted soul is creating a sculpture garden, of sorts, comprised of architectural elements that had been part of the church. Does anyone have information on this? Are the Clinic's plans to construct a parking lot? I'd like to praise whoever has come up with the idea of displaying these remnants on site.

Yes, the second plan is more what I had in mind, though I associated rebuilding at least some of the infrastructure as part of it because the plan I saw showed changes in curbs and other streetscape design. I'm quite sure I had seen a plan from before 2012 with a lot of charrette-type changes - e.g. possible focus on bridge over Superior as an "entrance arch," etc. Yes, the plan concentrated on Superior though did get into other streets, such as Payne. When I had asked about this major plan in the past someone here posted something about the rebuilding of Superior in AsiaTown would be tied in with the rebuilding of the rest of Superior - from around E. 30th to at least the East Cleveland border. So thus I've tied it all together in my head. :?

The plans for the Asiatown streetscape plan have been removed form the 'net. The infrastructure work is nearly complete; I'm hoping more will still be done this year. Some minor walk replacements were done on Payne too, recently. Does anybody know anything?

Thanks for responding and I'm glad you contribute to this forum. I just happen to consider it more like a supermarket than a convenience store. No, it's not a chain (actually, many convenience stores are chains), but it has far, far more departments and is far larger than any of what I consider convenience stores in Greater Cleveland (mainly beverages, snacks, limited canned goods, breads, limited meats, Lottery).

Absolutely nothing wrong with clean gray walls and brown windows. That's what Breuer wanted, apparently, and that's fine; who needs two shades of dirty gray? They've said all along the rotunda space has been well maintained so maybe it won't be such a long wait for the market. This is the sort of thing that is seen in other cities and it's quite exciting. Reminds me of sort of an elegant "food emporium," such as might exist in a London or Paris. Many American cities used to have downtown supermarkets - often affiliated with department stores - I miss it, and some cities still have this, besides major markets downtown. Btw, the PD article should have mentioned the supermarket in Reserve Square; seems like the reporter wasn't even aware of it. It's not large but has quite a few types of items. I wonder how "high end" the Heinens will be - anything like Constantino's? Yes, something like a high-tech Apple would be exciting, too, and draw lots of people and have much appeal to downtown residents and workers but the supermarket is fine, too. There's plenty of vacant space elsewhere downtown for the high-tech type business. Yes, many who protested the possible demolition of the Breuer tower hinted of corruption and they sure were spot in!

....but on the Bing photo (maps.live.com), though difficult to see, it looks like the mural was a regular rectangle - straight across the top.