Daytonnatian

Odd combo, ColDayMan, but I like it (I guess they are on the same line of latitude...) Anyways, truly impressive shots. Very nice job catching Cincy's urbanity.

^A minor is only allowed to drink an alcoholic beverage if furnished by THEIR parent. Period. You can give your daughter a bottle of Vodka and let them drink it in an hour and no one can do anything about it, but you cannot let their friend have a shot. As for your situation... you definitely shouldn't let your daughter go. But, I also wouldn't try and bust the party, because it's just not worth it. These are the last moments of her high school career, and she won't want to be remembered as the "kid whose dad busted so-and-so's grad party" at every get-together with members of her high school class. If the fact that alcohol was displayed in such an obvious manner, surely news will get to the authorities soon enough.

Sorry I'm posting late, but I'm glad someone posted the DDN article. Anyways, I'm happy to hear that there would be 2 stops in the Dayton metro area, and that one of those is guaranteed for the CBD. However, I am torn on whether Rvierside or Fariborn should get a stop. If Riverside got a stop, it might bring families and tourists to the line (and to the Air Force Museum), but if Fairborn got the stop, then it might bring more business travellers to WPAFB. Either would be good, but if there was some way that they could serve both needs, that would be awesome.

^This may be a little off topic, but I HATE morons who ride their bicycles on country roads when there are perfectly good bike trails nearby. I can't even tell you the amount of times I have almost hit bicyclists when I take country drives north of the D, wearing brightly colored, reflective clothing. I think it draws me closer into them, because I am distracted and am drawn to the flashy colors like an insect. When I do avoid them, I have to swerve WAY to the left side, putting myself at a huge risk of causing a head-on collision because some moron doesn't like the perfectly good bike trails at Taylorsville of Englewood metropark, among others nearby. Also another rant about bicycles that's a little more on-topic: I know it's not really legal, but I also think bicycles should be on the sidewalk because they don't move at the pace of cars and cause a traffic hazard. With bike lanes downtown, this should solve the problem. Thank goodness, because I do love the idea of bicycling, I just don't like the idea of risking my life to try and avoid bicyclists when I'm driving.

^LOL luxury strip mall! Didn't realize that was there. I remember back when I lived down that way, I was within walking distance of Monroe's finest store, The Gun Runner. It had a picture of a fine-looking pistol on its sign, and truly looked like a friendly, cozy outpost of Monroe friendliness and hospitality. Then, I loved seeing the community build all of these ridiculous city utulity buildings they couldn't afford, which forced Monroe into bankruptcy, truly showing our city's managerial skills. Every once in a while, I would also see Mike Tannheuner, the mayor of this wonderful land, rollin' in his Caddy with "Tannheuner" on the liscense plate, helping me realize what a classy town I lived in. He was good friends with Larry Flynt, the genius behind Hustler Magazine, and helped him get a store located at the site of a former Gold Star Chili (which then moved to Monroe's bustling commerce park). Also should throw a shout out to one of Monroe's other well-respected citizens, Lawernce Bishop, founder of LB ranch, and Solid Rock Church. Also narrowly dodged drug charges dealing with using his horses to smuggle drugs. This, along with the community's other various druglords that operated nearby, made me so happy that I was living in a suburban paradise. Oh, what a wonderful place these suburbs are!

Hey, cool thread! :-D Anyways, I owe a shout-out to Jeffery :yap: and his awesome Dayton threads. I googled Trotwood, Salem Mall, and other key words to try and find out what was going on with the Salem Mall redevelopment project. Since I work in Trotwood and have strong ties to Dayton, along with a passion for my hometown metro area, I started to spend some of my off time figuring out what good economic developments were happening thorughout the region. Soon enough, I stumbled on some of Jeffery's threads :clap: :clap:. I read through the ones on Trotwood and Salem Mall, and I was hooked. I started off by reading through all the threads that I found interesting page by page, old and new, and after a couple of months, I broke down and registered. Unfortunately, though, the recession came, and it has hit Dayton pretty hard, so not much economic development to speak of or post about. :-( Still, I am thrilled this exists, and that I'm not the only oddball that LOVES cities and economic development/urban revitilization! :lol: (live in Dayton suburbia currently, btw. It's the land of conservative city haters who are paranoid about hobos, and I also find them to be quite racist sometimes, which really bugs me, those stupid suburban #$%^&$%&^$#%@##$%@!#%&*ers :whip:) (sorry about the anger outburst :oops:)

The biggest problem with this thing is that there is no real reason to go here. There are no big anchor stores that will draw people in, and the whole project is WAY too small. As CincyDad said, go big or don't build at all because this market will not support "small malls" as shown by Towne Mall. Everybody drives to Dayton or Towne mall, myself included when I lived by Monroe. Plus, announcing TWO cheapo chinese restraunts in the press release about what stores will be located in the mall? Give me a break, this is nothing but a new flea market with a couple of dumb retailers led into it. This project is truly Simon's worst venture to date. Hopefully the recession kills them, because our nation CANNOT waste resources in such a careless fashion, as these people think is acceptable.

Hoefully, good Daytonians won't associate themselves with this trash.

I've always been suprised they haven't converted this thing to condos or bulldozed it already. Cool building, though, but it always strikes me as odd whenever I drive by it, just because it is in such an odd location (in this day and age, at least).

Sorry to say this, but River Downs is a god-awful location for anything. The surrounding area is filled with poverty and deplorable buildings for at least a mile in all directions, and having the river nearby just makes the location much more humid and miserable, especially since it is impossible to see the river from the racetrack! Maybe if they close it, they could turn it into a nice park, which would actually be really nice, especially with Riverbend and Coney Island right there. It would be very nice to have a tranquil spot right by the river to go to before a big show at Riverbend or a day at Coney Island. Plus, a casino would work much better in the city center, where it would be forced to maintain higher standards and people would be more likely to go to it. It would also create a large population of people in the city center, and also would be a nice compliment to the Banks.

Nice thread. Reading is DEFINITELY the best of the cities above judging from these shots, and State College has a little too much modernist on the cheap for my liking, but very nicely done photo thread!

Wow... I really like Belmont, Greene, Highland, and Licking's county courthouses. (Special mention to my hometown courthouse, Miami, as well)

This could happen..... Again, who would have wanted to live in Seattle or Portland, Oregon in 1950?

Always fascinated by this trail, thanks for the pictures! Would be a nice trail to use if it wasn't so isolated and in such rough shape in most parts. Up by Taylorsville Dam in Dayton, it is EXTREMELY hard to tell where it passes through.

Same here. This is great!

Awesome! This is really cool, kinda reminds me of Oakwood with a modern spin. Is this place really as isolated as it seems?

Nice plan, actually, for my favorite historical park. This will turn the park into a real draw attraction if they go through with it. I guess it will be done slowly but surely, so no major improvements now. Dayton has an unbelievable history, so it will be nice to expand on it in such a nice showcase. Construction to start on Carillon master design Planners seek to bring history to life By Jim DeBrosse Sunday, April 26, 2009 Someday at Carillon Historical Park, you may be able to ride a 1903 Dayton trolley down its main concourse, fly via zip line on a 1910 Wright Flyer over the park, traverse by canal boat a half-mile of the restored Miami-Erie Canal or take an incline to a hilltop park with a bird’s-eye view of the city. Children could romp through a giant cash register of slides and tubes, ride a carousel featuring Dayton’s many inventions or visit the playhouse factory of Edward Deeds’ 9-year-old son, Charles. The master plan for the 65-acre historic park is as bold and creative in its approach as the many Dayton inventors and entrepreneurs the park honors. Read full article here: http://projects.daytondailynews.com/cache/galleries/Recreation/General%20Recreation/041509carillonrenderings/

Wonderful thread! Now, if Ohio can just annex Ft Wayne, that would be awesome. Truly one of the midwest's best mid-sized cities.

Throw McArthur on that list! :shoot:

Well, this is great. Worse cities have turned their mudholes into attractions, so I sure we can turn the large, beautiful, Great Miami River into something spectacular, too. Again, we need to make sure that we have links to major attractions in the area, such as Carrilon Park, Wright-Dunbar, Miami University Middletown and Hamilton, Sinclair, Sunwatch, Boonshoft Museum, etc. Also, the Miami County cities have historic downtowns with nice shopping areas, walkable residential, etc, so it should definitely work up there right off the bat. The rest has potential, but it will require some work. Hope this goes well!

^^Agreed with your last post, CincyDad. It is pointless to do a bunch of halfway projects, and this probably leads to sprawl worse than anything. Honestly, though, Middletown's CBD will probably see some improvement if sprawl continues to its west side in the Trenton/Madison Twp./Edgewood area, which seems very likely will happen. Towne Mall could easily expand, and much of the infastructure is already in place. The mall is in decent condition, too, and could potentially have a very large draw market. Demolishing the mall would actually not be the best option because there really is no need for office space in Middletown, and any such need will probably be met by development near the Atrium Medical center. Still, this outlet mall is an utter failure. It reeks of Cincy Mills-North. However, it would make for a fancy flea market :mrgreen:

That died (thank god) and hopefully will never see the light of day again. Stupidest project I had ever seen.

^Anybody got an article? This is great to hear! (wish its major-leauge hockey this time)

^Also, won't Cincy's and Dayton's metros combine in 2010? If they do, this point will be irrelevant. We are interconnected enough now that there really is not any definable boundary between Cincinnati sprawl and Dayton sprawl.

^Agreed. Mayor McLin should take a look at this. We need a wake up call.