ExPatClevGuy

'Not hopeful of using Bedrock and adaptive resuse / historic preservation in the same sentence. After the Columbia Bldg (1908) was demolished for parking lanes to a casino garage next door, and the Stanley Block Bldg (1870s) was demolished for "Dice Park". Okay, so now maybe they owe Cleveland a high-vis turnaround project, not directly related to the casino? BTW, lol. "Dice Park in downtown Cleveland may have set a speed record for the public condemnation of a weak design idea."

Tanger is well positioned to lure additional new top retailers to the center.

If our tax dollars will be redirected and given to the owners of the Cleveland Browns, which entities that currently enjoy the benefit of casino generated taxes will stop receiving this same money? The change up means Ohio is trading out something that had been a clear priority, and making NFL owners the new priority. - Why?

Does the neighborhood need a dental office and a State Farm Insurance agency? If so, this is perfect.

Oh really? Tell us more about the Philly & B'more row houses you watched being built between 1844 & 1933. 'Here's some being built and sold there today.

'A 1950s Citroen DS. The artist must be a fan or collector of French cars, and so added it in as a little self indulgence.

Whatever happens; if it's Jazz, I hope it's still Nighttown. This local allusion to Nighttown reflects upon the red light district of Dublin, Ireland in James Joyce's modernist novel Ulysses, from the chapter Circe. Ulysses was published in serialized form by the woman who created Shakespeare & Co (Sylvia Bach) in Jazz age Paris (1914-1940). IMO - Bungled as this whole scenario was, there's just too much that's iconic and Cleveland-cool about this place and the Nighttown name to let that legacy pass away without some extra consideration. I've been dying for it to reopen so I could return and bring visitors the next time I'm in Cleveland. I guess now I'm glad I missed this series of missteps and mistakes there. I might have been saddened and embarrassed to bring a visitor after hyping it for many years and maintaining my excitement for Nighttown's triumphant return. 😦

^ Dream Hotel always seemed like more of a central business district kind of place to me. IMO, it's the kind of hotel for young people who want to move around on foot in a vibrant downtown area.

Bonsoir, Stadium! This major change to the skyline is now out of our hands. I'm very excited about what's next for the Cleveland lakefront without it.

$Ms that don't go to the Browns, (although not as much without the admission tax) can instead be spent on the lakefront. The cost for demolition of the current stadium will be eye popping, but should still leave some nice piles of loot to be used as infrastructure improvements and developer incentives. Also, if the stadium stays put, I imagine Ohio & Cuyahoga to spend indirectly on new stadium support by improving the roadways and infrastructure surrounding the current site. Also, good luck to all of us getting to our (Brook Park) CLE flights on time - any time there are stadium events (Monday/Thursday Night Football, Taylor Swift. other convert events, etc.) at a potential new Brook Park facility.

I hate it still, but at least the fakey texture-free faux French "mansard" roof with the verdigris colored finish is gone. That element would have been a long term architectural embarrassment for sure. - I feel seen, lol. Also, the image below is a similar visual statement, styled with 10 times the visual grace & dignity, in suburban Cleveland Hts.

Cleveland is ageless & timeless, with most of the eras displaying their artifacts and remnants, sometimes well, sometimes needing help. "Moving forward" by demolishing what a few don't like or they don't personally understand the appeal of, isn't actually stepping forward at all. Cleveland doesn't need to be a sleek imitation of some-other peer city to look incredible for visitors, or to make us proud at home. There are plenty of anodyne skylines around the USA, but they say nothing to anyone except that there is no visible past there. That's either because no history exists, or the folk there were too wrongly ashamed of their cool local stories to save any of it. The CTE Smokestack is a link in our chain that some other towns will never have and wish they did. From a farming trapping and milling town > an industrial town > a banking commerce, transport and engineering center > a manufacturing powerhouse > beacon of opportunity > immigration magnet > a Victorian/Edwardian/Gilded place > City Beautiful inspiration > center for Beaux-arts architecture > Burgeoning jazz age metropolis > a (mildly, lol) art-deco city> a creative design center > a mid century modern city > a brutalist city > internationalist-tower & urban renewal HQ> an early pioneer of interstate freeways destructing our close-in urban neighborhoods > exciting postmodern pop and flair > and a now a city with contemporary design aesthetics adding freshly-built landmarks to our rich mix of historical moments.

@newyorker Will you explain why this is your desire? I'd rather not deny who we are by demolishing all remnants of our earlier selves. IMO, this type of building reeks of fun, even stylish authenticity. It has tons of charm for me, even though there's only one stack left where there used to be three. The very cool Cleveland Thermal Energy (CTE) building has been here since 1924, so it is 100 years old this year. The steam it generated to heat buildings underground downtown was recently converted from coal to gas, and it sits vacant. If there are no hazards and it's still generally salvageable, I'd prefer to see it repurposed to a contemporary use. It's far too cool to me. Sigh... A little spit and polish will so often deliver a derelict building to favorability, but this often gets missed when the public fails to see the potential of a place. I'm looking at you Sugar Warehouse, Powerhouse in the Flats, and rusty-cool (should be lit up again) lift-bridges.

Is this a drawing of Dreamliner over the airport or are those fireworks? Both indicate some problems with proximity. Thinking just now about the Secret Service (who oversee Superbowl security) and the likelihood of free-flowing airline traffic above a Superbowl stadium during the weeks surrounding game day - which of course would be an insanely busy time for airline traffic in-&-out of Cleveland if a Superbowl is being sold as part of this package. Burke and Hopkins are two different sized bags of potato chips

IMO a vertical arrangement is inefficient for a massive urban courts and justice building, so it should only be constructed as a skyscraper if absolutely necessary. Users of this building will have no interest in a shimmering tower when they have to use it(!) Maybe our Solomon-like judges who would love a tower, thanks to the separate elevators they'd use to their offices in the sky with commanding views over the city and lake. Juries, judges, police & security, attorneys, housekeeping, clerks, wedding couples... will be loathe to wait, then ride in elevators crowded with their peers plus the families of the prosecution and defense. A series of separate elevators for prisoners is another additional expense & use of space and time to avoid if possible. Long elevator waits prior to assembly, lunch, and departure made me hate the extant Justice Center. Remember, many people will enter and exit this building at the same time, making elevators a significant annoyance. 😍 A broad and low, elegantly sculpted building along the lakefront on the bluffs could also be seen as successful as any skyscraper. Take a look at these successful low and broad structures to get a sense of success with a different form.