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Yet the scale of the proposed garage is large, and it doesn't seem sustainable without the benefit of round-the-clock daily users from the proposed tower, hotel, office and retail.

The building went up in the late 1940s. After Ohio Bell closed up shop around 1974-75, it was vacant for a while and then became a Wonder/Hostess thrift shop. When I was a kid we used to sneak behind all the tan & beige Ohio Bell Dodge vans parked in the lot, and rifle through the dumpster to find old telephone parts and wires for elementary school science projects. I wish I could find a snapshot of the place as a Bell Phone facility, but all I could come up with was an old toy version of those vans. Fun memory!

This was formerly (perhaps originally) a service center and garage for Ohio Bell repair trucks.

The flat tan & grey panels along the street make it look like the backside of the building rather than a place where the building greets pedestrians and presents a dialog with the historic Gospel Press Building. Some deeper window casings, sills, and mullions would add more texture to the panels will make them appear less "lifeless." Depth at the windows will help it relate better to all the surrounding structures. The current design appears to have been plunked down indiscriminately without regard to the rest of the neighborhood. Most of it looks really great. This particular aspect looks incredibly cha-cheap.

You know what that was for, right? I do not, PLEASEEEEE enlighten The building features a rooftop ticket lobby and waiting room designed for dirigible flights to New York and Chicago; the roof was never utilized because of the high winds from Lake Erie.[4] https://wikivisually.com/wiki/The_925_Building The "high winds" myth seems to be everywhere, including local media outlets of all stripes, but high winds were not the reason service never began upstairs at the Union Trust building. Rather, the GENERAL AIR SERVICE CORPORATION, begun by Clevelander Benedict Crowell and other national and local money men (like John Penton, The Hannas, Squire, Chester Bolton and more) went bankrupt just prior to, or shortly after, the Union Trust Bank Building opening for business in 1924. In fact, there's plenty of intrigue about the German Government suing Zeppelin for selling German national defense secrets to General Air Service Corp in the 1920s. This Front Page New York Times article from Feb 25, 1922 covers some of the development plans for the organization. - https://search.proquest.com/docview/99590849/fulltextPDF/6AF1B46D333B4D90PQ/6?accountid=46320 My grandfather and father both had offices in the Huntington (Union Commerce) Building for many years. My grandfather would attend the Midday Club in the old airship waiting room with my grandmother, and when I was old enough I would join my dad there for breakfast at Sammy's Metro Club. - My dad once suggested I get together with my pals and submit a contract proposal to bldg manager Hines Interests to disassemble a large iron superstructure on the roof. I suspect it was a water tower though, and not a mooring post for dirigibles. Here's some background published in 1922 on the company that tried to start airship service in New York, Cleveland, Chicago, and other US Cities; with an eye on future international service - https://tinyurl.com/y9uuoc4m

The base of a staircase or elevator shaft from the old Hotel Moreland? From the Plat Book of The City of Cleveland, Vol. One 1912 by G.M. Hopkins & Co.

Does anyone here have updating privileges on this site? I don't have the time or skill to do so, but I always wonder who put these up and who updates them in each city. It's really kind of fun to snoop across the state and around the world visiting the various stages of progress in each town. http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?cityID=147

Indeed, me too. As a mathy person, I also hate that the percentages reported in the article add up to 110%.

They're working hard, they're giving 110%.

As long as it doesn't have the words "The Residences at..." in the name I'm fine with whatever.

It seems like a good grant writing exercise in getting a handsomely endowed chair for the department. That'd be good place to start "Endowed Chairs, Professors and Scholars: These named endowments recognize the academic and research excellence of faculty while providing funding to enhance salaries and support research endeavors. They also allow the College to recruit and retain the best and brightest faculty. Endowed Chairs and Professors raise the regional, national and international visibility of CSU." - (csuohio . edu) The department as it stands: https://www.csuohio.edu/class/theatre-dance/faculty-staff

Like this - http://www.csuohio.edu/class/theatre-dance/csu-shows-tickets

Searching for photos of the station interior just now, I learned that the B&O's "Cleveland Night Express" train ran between DC & Cleveland from 1915 until 1961. It must have deposited passengers here, since Cleveland Union Terminal didn't open until years later. I'd love to get my hands on an elegant "Trainmaster" watch made by the Swiss Ball Watch Co., and named for the train: https://www.ballwatch.com/global/1/collections/trainmaster---16/cleveland-night-express---nm3038d-ll2j-wh---1831.html (route of the Cleveland Night Express is shown in orange.)

I don't know about that. Construction workers eat a lot of sub sandwiches and down plenty of coffee, plus suds after work. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a short term uptick at Cosmic Daves, Moriarty's, or the coffee shop. Fortunately, they're all pretty good places with a decent following.

Sour grapes? I think that's a different fable. It describes the circumstances pretending you don't want something good that you can't have, and suggesting it isn't a good thing anyway. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fox_and_the_Grapes How is it that we need to close all of Euclid rather than East 6th Street? Cleveland has wonderfully wide sidewalks and avenues. How is it that they need it ALL? In other cities, all of the sidewalk and UP TO ONE LANE (the parking lane) are what is generally needed.

Great news! Crowne Plaze has a much more extensive booking operation than Wyndham. Wyndham books with the sleepy Ramada and Travel-lodge flags. This should bring more visibility to PHSq for travelers, and perhaps result in a higher quality operation. I've stayed in a few Crowne Plazas over the years, and while they aren't the most chic places in town, they were a solid value, and not the dump that the PHSq Wyndham had become. When I travel to CLE (a lot) I would never stay at the Wyndham due to the good room/bad room lottery it seemed to have become. Look at the scores and read the reviews on TripAdvisor to see how poorly the Wyndham Cleveland performs against visitors' expectations. Click at the top of the page to sort Cleveland hotels by visitor rankings, and you'll find the Wyndham near the bottom of the list. https://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotels-g50207-Cleveland_Ohio-Hotels.html

Yeesh! Those white panels are indeed awful. If a change is to be made on the East elevation, it should be adding some slight sculptural modification to add interest, not the erzats application of thoe (white?) colored strips. Who wore it better? See the Ohio Savings Plaza - which actually used such treatment to a decent effect, albeit decades ago.

Condos?

A TIF package doesn't preclude the Stark, or any property owner, making a "payment in lieu of taxes" to the schools. Forest City had done this with it's TIFs for several components of it's Tower City, Skylight Tower, and Ritz Carleton project back in the 1990s. Now if Stark has no interest in paying it's fair share of educating Cleveland school children - well that is another matter altogether, and sleazy if that's the plan.

I think the East-facing elevation facing the street is a disappointment. The South side not so much, since other things may eventually happen on adjoining lots The East-facing side of the tower deserves at least something; a minimal cant, slice, sculpt, or some kind of faceted treatment that hints at the more sculptural elements of the West-facing elevation. It's like a mullet with all the party on the West, and strictly business on the East. No need to go full-on. but something to break up the tired Internationalist file cabinet look that it currently presents will be great. This is my only gripe other than the bland facade and the hokey frame surrounding the garage portion on Euclid.

Rather than looking like the W Hotel; since the Weston W in a circle will mean nothing to most people; this would be much better at the top of the penthouse. It's the building logo for advertising purposes, and much classier because it's period appropriate. Image Source: thestantardcle.com

Hey There, Is anyone here at U.O. skilled at updating the skyscrapers.com site (link below) so it includes recently completed structures in Cleveland like the Hilton; proposed structures like 515 & Nucleus; under construction towers like One University Circle, and other serious proposals? I'd love to see Cleveland represented well on this site, but I fear my own digital renderings would appear as submitted by a 4th grader, (no offense to any 4th grader who already has exceptional digital rendering skills.) http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?cityID=147 Thanks!

Weird: Hover over the photograph in the Crain's article and the popup blurb refers to the building as the "Beacon Street Apartments." - Beacon Street? - A mistake I'm sure. In 1906, Cleveland renamed its north-south streets to a numbered system. Erie Street became East 9th Street and Bond Street became East 6th Street. Beacon Street is in Boston

Looking good to me: From today's PD. http://realestate.cleveland.com/realestate-news/2017/03/new_key_center_owner_plans_out.html Key Center renovations start with public spaces CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The new owner of Ohio’s tallest building plans to set out a fresh welcome mat at Key Tower’s front door. The Millennia Companies, which bought the Key Center complex for $267.5 million in late January, hopes to start an outdoor plaza overhaul in May. The landscaping project is likely to coincide with lobby renovations at the 57-story skyscraper, which looms over downtown Cleveland’s Public Square...

Some black open link fenced-in railings around the fan areas atop each of those monoliths would lessen their enormous visual mass by around 4.5" each. How did the Dolans & "designers" not see this.