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Agreed. If they can bump out one corner, then bump them all out. Increase the entire usable footprint of this already too-small tower.

I would love to see this builder explore the use of glass block instead of brick in the foremost corner where the building overlooks the West Shoreway and Lake Erie. The continuity of a reflective glass surface might prove to be much more flattering and lively looking, and it is still able to disguise mechanicals (or whatever might be in place behind this portion of the exterior surface.)

Hi @NorthShore647 What is the secret to opening these images. I'm not new, but can't seem to view them across several devices and and using different browsers (Chrome / Firefox / DuckDuckGo / PC / Mobile. ) Nothing will give. Any tips? - Thanks Update 08/30/2022 Hmmm.. what a weird thing. I wonder is my U.O. account is in some type of picture jail, or something.

Do you mean like this excellent urban context-matching 7-Eleven gas station in downtown Orlando, FL?

I know this is only a tangential and unserious conversation about the Sherwin Williams development, but... Hart Crane - A son of Cleveland, and a powerhouse of American poetry. https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/hart-crane "Hart Crane is considered a pivotal—even prophetic—figure in American literature, who is often cast as a Romantic in the decades of high Modernism. Crane’s version of American Romanticism extended back through Walt Whitman to Ralph Waldo Emerson, and in his most ambitious work, The Bridge, he sought nothing less than an expression of the American experience in its entirety." Hart Crane Park in Clevleand:

Really? I logged in for a speculative arts conversation in the Projects & Construction thread?

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Thank for this article KJP. ((🎩)) Hats off to K&D for all they have done and do, but I'm pleased that another entity will develop this project. K&D deserves all my praise, but they dont deserve a monopoly on downtown area residential. - A good mix of developers helps to keep things in good order for all.

There's no bigger supporter of our veterans than me, but I'm disappointed over this placement. Is this being installed because we don't have enough war memorials in every corner of the nation/NE Ohio, and in all of our most prominent places? Is this being installed because there's always more money for war stuff, but never enough money for beautiful gardens fresh public art, or sporting/leisure/interactive/playground equipment in our public parks.

If it's under a roof with ramps, metal guardrails, and petrolium-distilled simulated grass, (in the area specified for fast food carryout) I'm pretty confident it isn't nature.

Hart Crane - A son of Cleveland, and a powerhouse of American poetry. https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/hart-crane "Hart Crane is considered a pivotal—even prophetic—figure in American literature, who is often cast as a Romantic in the decades of high Modernism. Crane’s version of American Romanticism extended back through Walt Whitman to Ralph Waldo Emerson, and in his most ambitious work, The Bridge, he sought nothing less than an expression of the American experience in its entirety." Hart Crane Park in Clevleand:

Yay for new medical offices, but this incongruous site layout is a disservice to the community. Grrr... It does an excellent job of making that existing old Cleveland Trust branch look like a loose puzzle piece, and an eyesore at that. What gives with this strikingly insensitive design? 🤮 If only one side of the building will be fairly flush to the sidewalk, why is it the side of the building where it doesn't support a harmonious aesthetic (and pedestrian friendly) relationship with it's closest neighbor?

I dont understand. These building are already there, and they are already filled with students. Buying them adds zero capacity. Why doesn't CSU spend $150M to build two to three more, thereby adding more capacity all around? - Are the commitments from the current building owners to build more?

As it relates to the new SW Tower and it's neighbors, yes It's true that most do. I only learned this a few years ago from a NPS park ranger. "While plenty of birds — such as swallows, hawks, and hummingbirds — migrate during the day, the majority of land birds travel at night. Although it would seem more difficult to fly when it's dark, there are good reasons for the nighttime maneuvers." https://www.treehugger.com/why-do-birds-migrate-night-4864358

How nice for us that such binary choices aren’t the ones Cleveland has to make. ‘Strange options, if you ask me. Cleveland is already a beautiful city, and much of it is built to the very highest aesthetic standards. Folks weren’t heading for the exits over the past decades in response to Cleveland being a beautiful place.

Someone pointed out recently in an U.O. thread that Paris is mostly beige, and this was a thoughtful observation. 'Same with Rome. While most of the momumental bldgs in DC are white marble, the rest of the place is grey, beige, and brown too, And, you know what? None of those towns is an eyesore or a bore. I don't mind green, but if your building is going to be an interesting, wild or even a wierd color, the building should be #$@! great. Our green tower, should not be some boring slab of medicroty. - Even great color does not solve the problem of bland design. This building as proposed is a bore. It will be a green bore, but hey, Cleveland seems prepared to settle.

Agreed @Ethan, Freshly revamped church offices and parking, a new reception/fellowship hall, plus a big deposit into the church's endowment fund might do the trick too. This build-out on a former (demolished) parking + addition behind Mt Vernon Methodist in DC accomplished all of those things, which are all mission supporting activities. In the images below you can view the way a new office building was integrated into the historic sanctuary structure on Mt Vernon Square in DC at the intersections of Massachusetts & Virginia Aves at 9th & K Streets NW.. The church got a badly needed upgrade to it's office and social uses, plus a new roof and cleaning of the historic portion of the building, plus income from various uses at the new office building..

OMG - i just snarfed my coffee. LOL @ DISCO 106 WZZP! aka ZIP106 The radio station of my disco infatuated tweens. Click the blue link above for some ZIP106 Soundbites from 1978. 😀 Good luck to Evergreen on their effective adaptive reuse of these former Cleveland broadcast studios!

Old Stone is nicely illuminated now, but just not in color as I recall ⛪💰. I don't think Old Stone has the same deep pockets as the Catholic Diocese of Cleveland ⛪💰💰💰.

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@marty15 When I examine your highlighted image, I find that the sum is no greater than the parts. The planned tower doesn't offer beautiful views for those looking up at it from the soon-to-be elegant Irishtown Bend Park or downtown. Instead, it more strangely seems to block a view. - How odd not to celebrate the obvious opportunity of visibility for miles around by not place something of style or interest on the south elevation of the tower; something that offers even the minimum of attraction to the eye. Add a south-facing balcony to the party-level, with a view over the city (or something) to break up that glum featureless mass, and I will be pleased. So too will be those who pass and see this tower daily. I disagree that the single most distinguishing detail in the artist's rendering should be the clunky window washing gondola on the roof, riding above the exposed elevator shaft. How about a flag? - or three? Does it harm the success of Cleveland projects to add some flair, or to disguise unsightly maintenance hardware from prominent views?

The stone structure facing the sidewalk, while not a masterpiece of Art-deco, is at least visually interesting to gaze at. It has rhythm. - This building is not bashful about asking you to look at it for more than just a passing second. It's obvious that those who designed it gave serious consideration to its context, and because of that it has a story to tell about our town. It doesn't match, but does harmonize with the bridge somewhat rather than rejecting it outright. It offers something of interest for anyone who happens to be near it. Do we need an ornate Beaux-arts tower here? - No. Do we need a dystopian cereal box; a building that resembles the slapdash landscape from a child's video game? - Also no. The people of Cleveland and Ohio City deserve more than the butt-side of a building, and it's okay to ask. We shouldn't seek for this developer to fail. We want our entire community to win. Developers and designers, please bring your A-game long-term vision to our neighborhoods, not just to your bankers. My own rule for historic preservation is that its okay to tear something down, but only to replace it with something as-good or better. - In this case, don't replace a painting with a mirror.

Many will read that as an interesting and important part of the story. Why U so mad?

Now here's a straightforward building with excellent texture and street presence. It looks efficient, inviting and great for the neighborhood all at once - up close and from a distance too. Local architects and planners up the street at 25th & Detroit Ave would do well to follow this example of great urban design being set for Cleveland with INTRO.

FLAT MONOLITH: As much of a void in the landscape as what's already there. I agree that it is ugly, but not in that lovable kind of way. Bridgeworks mostly just gives an impression that it got dropped there by mistake. The entire most visible side of the building facing towards our new park and and the surrounding community looks like the back-side of this structure. While viewing the Bridgeworks design, my mind keeps going to a similarly "absent building in a landscape" on Ashland Street in Chicago outside of Wicker Park. It too shows none of the contributing characteristics that bring human scale, energy or visual vitality to the surrounding community. It subtracts rather than adds to the sense of place. The image above presented by Bridgeworks, developers shows cars rushing off of the Veterans' Memorial Bridge at the speed of a blur. It's an appropriate rendering of what to expect too. There's nothing to slow down for and see at street level in the Bridgeworks design. - "Just keep moving. Don't get caught by that light on 25th!" IMO there's nothing worse than to say a concept is boring, but Bridgework as shown so far is indeed a bore. - I wouldn't invite it to the party.