ExPatClevGuy

I'm greedy and all too, but that is one of the largest hotel ballrooms in America - with a capacity for 3,000 people. This is in addition to the many other major spaces in the hotel. I'm sure what might be preferable is to build above or around it and keep that outstanding facility intact as it is a terrific supplement to downtown meeting space for grand local events and national conventions, etc. This should not be overlooked when thinking about supplement & support for activities of the new SW HQ.

New owner likely for both the Hyatt at the Arcade, and the Renaissance Cleveland (Hotel Cleveland) properties downtown. These two may be swept up by a special purpose acquisition company in a $411M buying spree by VM Hotel Aquisition Corp of Toronto. The purchase includes undervalued upper tier luxury hotels in stable markets; Boston, Cleveland, & Montreal. No related news is included here on the continuing upgrades at the Hotel Cleveland, a Marriott Autograph hotel brand that is expected to replace the Renaissance flag on Public Square. Press release about the Cleveland two-hotel acquisition Additional press releases about VM Crain's coverage of this story by Bullard/Jarboe Image: Western Reserve Historical Society

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My hopes are high that this ownership is only an interim-step expected before the sale to a solid real estate developer or REIT. I distrust local non-profits running real-estate enterprises. Once local political fingers are stuck into the pie it takes strong leadership to pull them out. Best wishes to Terri Hamilton Brown & Co. I feel she is an accomplished and competent leader. Hamilton Brown is very capable of broad vision and positive systemic change. She remains a local political creature too, but is a solid performer.

'Not for the view from View Road, but from I-71! (That its address will be "View" Road is the poignant aside.) I'll wait til its up and see what it looks like when I'm arriving downtown via the Metro-Curve, then let you know whether it affects the view.

Gahhh! Why even design a beautiful building if nobody will see it behind a more prominently placed @!$% of a garage. This is a major design fail for the MetroHealth campus and our wider community. On "View Road" no less. 👎

👍 Geeze, I forgot about that place. Good one them! As an undergrad we'd meet at Twins for intramural bowling tourneys among CSU student clubs. I wish them well and may bowl a round on my next trip to Clevo, for old time's sake.

Of course I'm fascinated by all this, although I'm even more excited for the future of the place... "The building in which the business is operated was built in 1964 as a Holiday Inn hotel. Chao-Hsuing Hsu, Robert’s uncle and a resident of New York, formed U.S. Tommy, Inc. in that state and purchased the hotel from Holiday Inn in 1982 for about Two Million Dollars. He financed most of the purchase price. He converted the business to an independent hotel known as The Shangri La Hotel. In 1989, the current owners purchased the stock of U.S. Tommy, Inc., assumed its debt obligations, and took over management of the hotel." "The Debtor is a family-owned New York corporation that operates a hotel business located at 3614 Euclid Avenue in Cleveland known as University Hotel and Suites. The shareholders are: Yueh-Or Lin and her 3 sons -- Robert Lin, James Lin and Mark Lin. Each owns 50 shares or 25% of the corporation. Yueh-Or Lin and James Lin reside in Taiwan; Mark Lin resides in Illinois. Robert Lin is the secretary and treasurer of the corporation and is the general manager of the hotel. He resides in the hotel and is responsible for the day-to-day operations of the business." Source: This 2017 bankruptcy filing

Oh Lort, my heart just skipped - FI-NA-LY-!! BIG NEWS from Michelle Jarboe: The craptastic University Hotel & Suites at 3614 Euclid Ave is reportedly about to be remade into a Delta by Marriott. The investors are Crimson Rock Capital. Delta is a mid-tier brand referred to in this Marriott page as "Classic Premium." I find this pleasantly surprising given the humble condition of this structure as it stands today, but the location is indeed fantastic. It's an especially great locaton when one thinks about the successes downtown and at University Circle, and the reemergence of Midtown as a burgeoning commercial center in its own right - plus easy parking for regional travelers. For yucks, just read some of the many one-star reviews on tripadvisor by those who've ever had the displeasure of staying there. People wrote things like "Not good... Not good at all" "RUN" "I would rather sleep in my rental car." Ugh, whew - Yay! (Photo credits from reviews of this hotel on tripadvisor & yelp 😆 )

Thank you to skyscaraperpages member Pleco, for adding a render of the proposed new Sherwin Williams building to this online database. It presents the specifications and a diagram of Cleveland towers. I've always found that site to be a fun place to hang out and waste time on the web, and it's a solid resource with answers to questions I'm curious about when visiting other cities. @Pleco .. is that you? Thanks! “If you’re going to put up a building that eight million people can see all the time, it had better be pretty f%#ing good.” - Gregg Pasquarelli, Founding partner at SHoP Architects

'Glad for the housing, but "Nothing to see here folks." - No, really, nothing to see. This is where the Goodtime III can speed a little faster along its course up the river, 'til it arrives at something worth passengers looking up from their phones.

RIP Mr. Frazier. You were a true original. We were lucky to have you. 😢

How much Federal Infrastructure money could happen to support a deal like this bold (and expensive) little fantasy? I wonder how closely RTA would work with a private developer to create a massively scaled TOD, selling air rights over a new rapid station, with the potential to for said development to connect Tremont (Duck Island) with Ohio City in a single action. + How badly would this murder the Red Line Greenway?

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@mrnyc & @CleveFan Yep. Thanks Pickard + Chilton for a presenting a design for Cleveland that merely mimics another architect's design from fifteen years ago - in a Westchester bedroom community, no less. It was probably considered stunningly fresh for White Plains, NY back in 2007, but it is sleepy & lazy for Cleveland now in 2023/2024. The more I think of this, the less I like that it is so hopelessly derivative and age-worn, even in advance of construction. 👎 I now accept the angle-ey topped Sherwin Williams design as our Scarlet Letter: The official penalty for keeping S.W. in Cleveland. It all just reminds me how powerless I am in the face of almost amateurishly bland artistic vision and sensibility from our most fantastically wealthy local corporate interest.

@3231 I did think that, but wasn’t sure how to articulate it. You did a great job. I do think that angle has some potential.

Yeah, I hope to be surprised and pleased that I like it too. The risk fo me is that it will look fat, flat, and bland, even with the modestly angled top. The architect's fuzzy renderings as presented so far only show the most flattering angles of this mammoth tower. From what they show, it just doesn't sing the same aspirationall design song that it's three tallest neighbors sang in their own eras of design & construction, even 200 PS.

@OH_Really If only! If the Bocom Tower in Shanghai were Cinderella. then we got the Stepmother. The tower in Shanghai is not so very different from SW in concept, yet it dares to be distinctive and cut a more strikingly confident figure of its own. It calls one to look twice in order to admire it, yet it isn't far-out, kooky, or wild. It may be less practical than the SW tower, but SW could have borrowed one more element from this design by swiping some of it's actual flair on the upstairs end. I guess we should be happy, but let's not try to compare our new tower in Cleveland to buildings that are actually beautiful, memorable, & marvelous to gaze upon. Doing so will just make us all feel bad.

Ahhh... Refreshing to think of a sidewalk cafe downtown on Bolivar, with shade and "fresher breezes" blowing over the park-like Erie Street Cemetery. Famous early Clevelanders Lorenzo & Rebecca Carter, and Joc-O-Sot are all interred there and will hopeful send their spiritual blessings over any spirits served to Cleveland and her visitors. Bolivar might just make for a great residential thoroughfare.

If we're worried that the lakefront will erode all the way to Lake Ave due to climate change, it's probably best for all if we run this bike trail down the center of Clifton Blvd in the exising right of way.

Ah, but they don't perceive themselves to be part of "the city," but are rather an entity unto themselves. Also wouldn't they be more appropriately referred to as NIMFYs? If the new bike-friendly sidewalks are paid for with a personal property assessment or if they are required to yield any personal property for the new bike-friendly right-of-way, or if there are homeowner insurance ramifications, or they just don't want to back their cars or walk their dogs across an onslaught of unpredictable high-speed type-A cycle commuters on the trail, then I'm more likely to be sympathetic. - But but of such things I have no certain knowledge.

@Htsguy I think I Shopped at Bunce Bros. Clothiers in the that garage-liner retail space too, until they moved to the then-new Galleria. (image from an online retailer of vintage clothing)

@LlamaLawyer In a way yes, except Terminal Tower, Key Tower, and 200 Public Sq will be the only buildings of those mentioned that are in direct visual dialog with the new Sherwin Williams tower. Given the height & proximity of all four tallest towers together, the caliber of design, materials, and the execution of details for the new SW tower should be more than "better than its local stylistic peers around town." In some ways the other more recent "glass jewel boxes" around town you mention do beat the new SW design when it comes to the execution of details and refinement of concept. Cleveland's newest tower of the 2020s will ideally be a peerless and singular contemporary match in design quality when compared against the visual statements of the other three tallest towers in town from the 1920s, 1980s, and 1990s. I would go so far as to say it is almost there. With refinement it could be a lasting iconic legacy and not an also-ran of missed potential. The design as shown is certainly acceptable and fine. Still, it simply ends at the top rows of sharply angled glass without the kind of celebration or puctuation that makes for a memorable tower. I find it to be joyless. There's no individual spirit in thr tower's upper reaches where the flat glass curtain walls on all sides approach and meet the sky. There is no texture or depth. It just ends like an afterthought. The series of windowframes on the top floors are unceremoniously sheered off at an angle, and that's it. To repeat my earlier comment; flat-flat-flat, but not in a good way.. Everyone's a critic, I know. I claim these thoughts only as my own observations, and I accept that other opinions are as valid. Thanks All.

LoL, REBOL is only one story tall. 😆

@Htsguy You nailed it with the concession stand reference. Anyone who is familiar with Love Square in Philadelphia will likely approach this new off-limits Paint Museum seeking to purchase a Cleveland Rocks tee-shirt. They've got one of these two story jobs on their square in Philly too. Yes it's similarly weird & out of scale for its surroundings, but at least it looks like what it actually is a gift and snack shop with windows at the treeline.