ExPatClevGuy

Thanks for the updated shots. 👍👍👍 Nice looking place for twelve new families on this very cute yet vibrant human-scaled residential street. I'm surprised how few people see this as a total win that it is. I love it for the size and contextual cohesiveness within the historic fabric of the neighborhood. IMO there's still lots of room in U.C. for towers of everyone's favorite tiny apartments. They can stand tall among the prairies of ravaged low-density neighborhoods surrounding them. The answer to affordable housing is not to create an unnecessary imbalance of wastelands in one place, but everyone crammed together in another.

Good luck with those topiary at the foundation. I'll check back in a few years. I hope they are still well maintained and I have to eat my words.

Today's microunit is tomorrow's tenement slum. 'Glad it was was reduced in scale. One single multifamily residential structure should not be designed to make up for the macro-scale shortcomings of the wider region. The continued high demand in this community will bring focus & development to other empty city lots. Hopefully they also won't be way out of scale for their neighborhoods and if so their designs will get cut down too, to long-term sustainable size.

Time to move on neighbors. You got a better product after the redesign. It's over. The new owners are under no obligation to allow their private property to be used for the fair. Perhaps it's time to close off a portion of Ford Road in order for there to be enough space for that seasonal activity.

🤔... why build a pretty land bridge at all, since the walk to our current Amtrak stations is already a complete delight. All one needs is a coat, and a little determination. 😆 @lockdogYou must be fully able-bodied - Good for you! If you suggest then that Cleveland build-in as much inconvenience as possible, have at it. I put forth that the best-possible critical thinking should go towards convenience of use. Make this facility accessible and inviting enough that people find using it to be a pleasure. In the end, it can look pretty much like these drawing, yet also be something to be proud of because important details related to actual use are considered and ironed out.

Thanks @lockdog for "wow.... blah, blah, blah...." The public's process of thinking about, learning about, and understanding this new concept is taking place right here and right now. We amateur/armchair planners (and likely some professional) have all logged in to give our free praise & critique - and verymuch enjoy doing so. Don't be afraid to consider comments that challenge you. They might inspire modifications to this preliminary plan and make it look & work better for everyone in the finished product. This is your own perfect moment to point out how ideal the current design looks to you and tell us why you think it should be built exactly as shown without changes. NOTE: The time for public discourse & critique is before something gets built.

Per the potential of a train station and hotel combo on that site: I will want to see more planned space for taxi/ride-app/bus/mobility device queuing, loading, exchange and drop off for this "multi-modal" enterprise to function well. There doesn't appear to be enough room for such queuing, and it won't work if it isn't planned to handle success. Think about the ticketing and pickup areas at Hopkins and then look again at the amount of space planned between those two towers and the stadium. For example, imagine if you will how arriving passengers to scheduled trains might manage their arrival on a big game day or Monday Night Football game. Culturally speaking, Cleveland police and traffic planners are TERRIBLE about allowing traffic to flow during large events. On the other hand, if we want people to walk across two acres of grass and concrete land-bridge to get to their trains from Lakeside Ave, we might as well put the whole operation in Chagrin Highlands

47th & Lorain: Now more elegant + desirable! Thank you Cleveland NIMBYs for asking and getting better products for our city neighborhoods. Keep seeking the best possible design approaches for urban multifamily housing. Continue to demand development that does more than just add bodies. Rather, push for those great intangibles that make city life the best it can be; timeless quality, harmonious setbacks, approachable pedestrian scale, detail, interest, character, and flavor. Curb appeal is not some mystery formula. Developers know how to do it.

If the engineering can match these pretty pictures, I'm ALL-IN. 😆 These "Rail, Diesel, Train-roof & Gravel-view Pits" on the land bridge do seem superfluous and expensive. - Okay to that, but whatev(?) "There's no there there." - Gertrude Stein IMO, If we can pour this much infrastructure, there's going to need to be a lot more lease-able space to cover those costs.

The USC Facebook page just welcomed her and are inviting comments. Perhaps a USC Social Media specialist can help relay the message to her if sent via Facebook by all her hometown fans on West 50th Street. 🏡😆 🏀➰🗑️ - ALLY OOP!

A tribute to the Hotel Winton / Pick-Carter / Ettore Boiardi would surely be appropriate. At one time it was one of the city's great storied "society" hotels. Some swank & celebrity fun was to be had there, with ice skating demonstrations, live radio broadcasts from the Rainbow Room Orchestra and more. Winton Automobiles were just the thing back then. The Winton family/luxury automobile/hotel name lives on today at Winton Place, the former site of the Winton Estate on Lake Erie - (known at that time as Rosenheath.) (ballroom + images shown below / still handsome outside, although somewhat faded.) https://clevelandhistorical.org/items/show/934

100% Good name for a cemetery tho.

Thanks for making my point for me. 30% of 48 new residents = 14.5+ cars added to this tiny residential street. I'm sure that wishful thinkers presume that it will be 100% students living on little one-way Hessler, but this is inaccurate. Hessler Street is near the center Ohio's fastest growing employment district, and all residents will not be getting all their meals & foodstuffs at CWRU Fribly or via GrubHub delivery, and not all will shop at expensive boutique & convenience stores. These apartments are not all going to be treated as graduate student dorms.

@Dougal Thanks! I know nothing about the Golden Girls TV program, but read through an entire episode trying to learn the connection to Irishtown Bend or Bobby George. 😆 Funny coincidence that "The Grisanti Sisters" were the names of some characters on that show. https://goldengirls.fandom.com/wiki/Angela_Vecchio

Thanks @Dougal I only dug deep enough into the Grisanti Sisters on the web to learn "Midget mobster Peewee Bobanza's dead body was found in a suitcase, right between Angela's beaver mink coat and the veal shank she was carrying for Mother's Day. She burned the suitcase, the beaver mink coat, ... "and that veal shank never did taste right." - But this is taking us somewhat off topic.

👁️ 🔎 --- Still amateur-snooping for clues here in my spare time... The scale of this Pickard+Chilton designed podium described in the link below as four stories; and the elegance of this 33 story (970K sq ft) tower in Abu Dhabi would be on point for Public Square. I'll suggest that this hotel+residence for an unnamed client might pass for a more contemporary iteration of the Atria III Tower discussed above. I'm less afraid of the four-story Center of Excellence concept if it approaches this type of look. https://www.pickardchilton.com/work/abu-dhabi-luxury-hotel

I think since it's basically just a fan page, members can draft buildings from scratch and place them on the timeline. I don't know what the site's review process is for that. You can adjust what you see with the filters at the bottom of the page. The fantasy buildings aren't visible in the default view, but I selected the filter to include them because of the extra interest they add. There are actual proposed buildings all over the site too, but for Cleveland Only NuCLEus ver. 2.0 is shown because a fan submitted it to the diagram. I was originally just snooping among the fantasy towers to learn if anyone had crafted up some scale images of proposed Cleveland projects. Nothing really came up. I don't think the Cleveland page is nearly as active as other towns on the site. I'd maybe enjoy drafting up some images to post there and make the Cleveland page more complete, but don't have the talent/skills or time/patience to learn and make that happen Here is the Skyline Diagram page filtered to only display completed structures in Ohio. The site is a fun place to click-around & kick the tires to view city skylines and projects. It's possible to line up nearly every building across the globe and scroll through them all in order, tallest to shortest, starting with the Burj Khalifa.

I haven't visited this page in quite a while, but now see that folk have added in Lumen, Hilton, Beacon, and the middle version of NuCLEus to the Cleveland diagram. It will be a joy to see new images added to the mix on the Cleveland page, whether fantasy posits or real moving-ahead projects like SW, Bridgeview, (hopefully The Viaduct,) City Club, Artisan, and more. Whenever I do visit, this website becomes a total rabbit-hole for me. https://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?cityID=147

I hope that the interested area residents who presented their park idea and the councilperson (who seems misguided to me or may be posturing for goodies) will both be convinced that a park isn't the way to go here.

Speaking of Italian American Museums... Chef Boy-ar-dee (Hector Boiardi) 🏆 Original 💖 Beloved 🇮🇹 Italian-American 🍝 Chef 🇺🇸 War Hero (Innovation in feeding our troops overseas) 🏣 Clevelander!

A five story apartment building planned with zero parking is my concern. Perhaps 30 spaces aren't needed, but Zero? Any parking provided under agreements is also more than 400 feet away. This means support for limited mobility individuals, deliveries, errands, and the need for vehicles by families with young children are also zero. - Is this developer anti-family or anti-adaptive mobility vehicles for the handicapped? Even if America is at 95% autonomous vehicles by 2030, that zero stands out as extreme. As this neighborhood builds and becomes more dense, each building needs to be able to support a limited amount of parking. Some parking should be accommodated. Wouldn't we like to see another building rise on the parking lot proposed off-site by agreement for this developer? A limited amount absorbed by each builder is the better way to go. This keeps streets open for visitors of neighborhood residents, plus visiting patrons to the areas attractions and services. This also leaves room in the future for whatever forms of transportation are developed (expected and unexpected.) - Parking not needed in 20 years will make great space for gardens or storage. Note: New residents have no less claim to public resources like street parking than those who dwell here currently

Really, I should prefer to not be one or the other. I oppose hypocrisy and support the needs of current residents while seeking to promote wise growth in the neighborhoods. The two need not be at odds and the happiness of existing and new residents needs not be mutually exclusive. The anti-current-resident bias on U.O.NEO is strong. This should be kept in mind as armchair-anybodies express the manner in which development should proceed in any area of the city. The very definition of gentrification is people moving into an area and seeking to shape and change it to meet their own needs without respect for the lives and culture those who were there first. Progress with balance is a rare bird - seek it still.

Now here is a place where people can plan to enjoy high quality lifestyles without expecting / needing / desiring to own a car.

@KJPGood luck given the legacy Cleveland suffers with its bloatedly oversized and inefficiently parochial City Council. Things can change though so I remain hopeful for your idea.

Wrong. The neighbors on Little One-way Hessler Street do not need nor desire 30-48 new neighbors who developers "pretend" will not own cars. 12-24 new neighbors does seem about "just right" for this tiny residential one-lane one-way street with already over 100 residents. It dead ends too, except for a hard left turn onto Hessler Court; paved with wooden blocks from the 1910s. Put the larger planned 48-new-occupants structure out where it belongs - off this small residential block and into the mix of larger structures on a broader mixed-use thoroughfare a block or more away from Hessler Street. We can kill Cleveland's already cool & vibe-ey urban places by slavishly following the careless principle of "more is always better." It's so nice on Hessler Street: https://youtu.be/TZwvow0Ab8c