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Interesting plan. The downside is addicts become really desparate and start causing even more problems. That doesn't justify giving them money, it's just something to consider.

It isn't always so. At least it wasn't... a lot of the backing musicians on major 60s soul albums were white. Motown, Memphis, etc. Those guys in the Blues Bros movie really were involved in the scene, some years prior. And they dressed like themselves, just like everyone else did.

They still use microfiche at the probate court.

I'm with EVD, giant posts are kind of annoying. I'm more likely to skip over them. And usually, it's not the poster's intent to discuss every paragraph of the article. There ought to be room for discretion. I mean the poster's discretion-- not a certain individual's discretion over everybody.

...so Youngstown had an empty quarter from even before the big 1970s shutdown? Yes. The NE part of town was started but never finished, WWII era I think. When I first got to Toledo and saw there was a Telegraph Rd, I immediately thought of that song. I like Dire Straits a lot. I figured the song was about that road (US 24?). Presumably, the telegraph line in question connected those two towns.

Every time one of these articles fails to mention pedestrian lanes I get nervous.

To me, the replacement story is bigger than the McFaul story. Partially because the McFaul story is so shameful it's best forgotten. Cuyahoga Co. Sheriff Resigns POSTED: 4:48 pm EDT March 25, 2009 UPDATED: 10:55 pm EDT March 25, 2009 CLEVELAND -- Cuyahoga County Sheriff Gerald McFaul announced his resignation Wednesday afternoon. McFaul, who has been in office for 32 years, will officially step down on April 1. A statement released by his office read, "Sheriff McFaul has been under a doctor's care since suffering a debilitating stroke in 2006. He has been on sick leave for the past 30 days. His attending physician advised him yesterday that he should retire." The 74-year-old McFaul may be under a doctor's care but he's also been under fire for the way he's run his office. More at http://www.newsnet5.com/news/19012926/detail.html

I was just about to do that.

I enjoy his name. It sounds like puberty. And I think they should throw the book at him. This is the kind of thing that pulls down the whole community.

Yeah, I don't think this version of the word has the 'h'.

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I think they are called "whiggers"? This was prevalent at my high school. It was mostly people who had been in the skateboard clique. This one kid got "Do Me" carved in the back of his head.

Also, work has begun on the facade of 5 Guys' new HQ in downtown Lakewood.

Take your pick: A) Because they're not trying to help, they're trying to force the project to FCE. B) They're dumb.

Releasing public records destroys the project how? What I meant in the previous post is that Hts44121 and I were discussing whether the legal issue had any legs at all. Given that the commissioners seem to have acknowledged that it did, there is some chance that it did. That's my point. If the project ends up destroyed, which doesn't seem likely, those most at fault would be the commissioners, who aren't performing well in their roles as leaders. FCE is acting childishly, but they're doing what a business generally should. The commissioners should have shut them up long ago and been digging already. The PD is late on the public records request, but at least in that regard they're doing what a newspaper should (have already done). Yes, I agree that the PD is trying to tank the project. But requesting public records doesn't tank anything, unless those records are mad filthy. If they are, we have problems that go well beyond any project, and we need to deal with them directly before we can expect to see any projects actually happen.

I wouldn't be offended, but the efficacy of the PD's threatened lawsuit seems relatively on point.

Some things have to be black and white, or else I'm not paying any more tickets ever again. I refuse to be held to black and white standards if our leaders aren't. Any information gathered by a government agency, subject to a few exceptions that don't seem to apply here, must be shared with any citizen upon request. Period. That is state law. The results from any meeting, fact finding or otherwise, subject to a few exceptions that don't seem to apply here, must be shared with any citizen upon request. Period. That is state law. And attorney/client privilege isn't that black and white either. Statutes need to be pretty close to black and white, or they don't work. Ethical and professional conduct rules are not the same. What aspect of any Sunshine Law could ever function, if all you have to do is have a lawyer present to negate it?

It's the best method anywhere. The options you find in this manner are almost always cheaper. Otherwise you're helping pay for an ad budget.

I don't know of any valid Sunshine exception in play here. There is no provision made in the Open Meetings Act for straw votes. There are a slew of exceptions to the Public Records Act, but most have to do with personal information. I strongly doubt that "details of a billion dollar public project" is among those exceptions. We'd all like to have some specifics before forming an opinion-- which is why these laws exist. Anyone who doesn't think this is extremely serious should contact the City of Akron and ask what happened to them right after the new Sunshine Laws were passed. Hypothetically, if the commissioners were to sit on Jimmy's porch and work on this project... it would be illegal. Public business must be discussed in public, period. I read a case last year where a rural school board got nailed for doing the porch thing.

Not sure what law was being broken. Sure, the County "should" share this information with the public, but (and I may be wrong) I believe they were holding these meetings under valid exemptions to the Sunshine laws of this State. If I am wrong, I would like to know specifics.... the PD keeps on vaguely referring to the Sunshine laws but does not cite any authority for its argument. I thought I had posted some statutory cites or text many pages ago. I'm well versed in this, for reasons I'd rather not explain. In short, you can't make decisions at secret meetings and you can't refuse requests for paperwork. There is an exception allowing a private "executive session" to be held regarding the purchase or sale of land. The executive session must begin at a public meeting, which means this exception cannot be used to hold a separate secret meeting. That's never OK. I would venture that this deal goes well beyond a simple land transaction, but only that narrow aspect could legally be discussed in executive session. All other aspects of the deal, like subsidizing a business for 20 years, must be discussed in public. Plus, this land-deal exception applies only to meetings and has zero bearing on a government agency's absolute duty to provide written records upon request. Also, executive session is available only for discussion purposes... no official decision or vote can be made in executive session.

He's just trying to make them both sound good.

The school funding/quality debate has been a touchy political issue here for decades. It's one of the touchiest, really. If you prefer a more suburban setting, it's hard to beat the downtown area of Rocky River. I very much agree that you'll have a tougher time going car-free there. We're currently working on getting a rail line extended out that way, but that's also a touchy political issue. Welcome to the States!

It's not fair to hold a reporter responsible for their employer's politcal slant. Hats off to McCleveland for having his back. And I applaud the PD for threatening to file suit. The editorial HJG posted merely asks the commissioners to stop breaking the law. If anything, it should have been more forceful.

If you have time to recognize the problem and flash your headlights, don't you have time to swerve?

It's too late in the day for any US politician to claim a right to secrecy, or to ask everyone to assume they're doing the right thing. I can't think of any job that works like that. Certainly not county commissioner.