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Do we think the PD has meetings where they discuss how this is making them look?

My biggest concern is that the new CSU field will eat up events and programs that could have gone to LP, maybe enough to hinder its success. What you say is true... people would rather go to CSU than Hough. So there's a drawback. Another drawback I mentioned earlier is that ball fields aren't as inclusive as what you'd ideally want in the center of a dorm cluster. They're only good for baseball. And how much demand is there among CSU students for a campus ballpark? They aren't necessarily exclusive of each other, but I'd rather see these dollars put into getting a football program.

"[N]ot credible" is somewhat strong language for official statements like this. Good.

Exactly. All we do is cover up the problem with increasingly exploitative bandages.

I read through this thread long ago... some social experiment that was.

I often make a similar argument in favor of drug legalization. But I don't think this is the same at all. The difference is that with drugs, all consumers are forced into the black market. Here, only the poor ones would face that. Therefore, I have a harder time here saying let's legalize something unpleasant because everyone would be better off. This only applies to certain people, and therein lies the problem. A closer analogy is that Donald Trump doesn't use payday lenders just like southern whites didn't use colored restrooms. To say blacks would have no restrooms if segregation ended would be to miss the point entirely. Give everyone equal access to finance, regardless of what deposits they started with, and see what happens over a few decades.

It isn't surprising that certain people are at a higher risk to miss bills, when their bill for the same exact good or service is higher than it is for others. Vicious cycle, foregone conclusion, whatever we want to call it it's bad. A situation in which being poor means higher bills will necessarily lead to additional poverty and stratification. This leads to more "specialized services" like payday lenders, simmer for a generation, and the ghetto just got twice as big again. Discrimination against the poor must end.

In the same sense, the mafia helps some people get through life with "bridge loans." But that doesn't mean the mafia should be legal. The exorbitant fees paid to loan sharks helps perpetuate their market by ensuring that nobody ever has any savings. The answer to poverty is not 300% loans. The answer is getting them the same loan terms others get, on the way to eliminating their poverty altogether. I'd like to see Trump get rich if he paid poor people prices for things.

The sad thing is how very little of that 45' per person is accessible to inner city residents. A great number of suburban plazas need to be leveled. And a great number of suburbs need to be eliminated.

I don't think there's any comparison between college baseball and college football, in terms of contribution to campus life. This despite the fact that the football team plays maybe 6 games a year there. A campus ballpark for CSU isn't the worst idea in the world, it just clashes a little with plans for nearby League Park.

The baseball field is a little curious. It does seem like most of what could happen there could and should happen at League Park instead. For CSU, why not make a park/quad/green that is for everybody and is open year round? Ball parks by nature are surrounded by fences, and I didn't think that was the effect they were going for.

Cimperman's follow-up was very impressive. I like his attitude on this.

I'm not big on Panera either. The food is all scrawny. But it's upscale compared to BK/Taco Bell/Subway.

I see no problem with this at all. It's a shame that soup and subs are typically lunch food, or SM and Dave's could do solid evening business like the other restaurants in this area. Chipotle has a full queue till 9pm most nights. Quiznos just closed, but that was their own fault. Worst Quiznos ever. You had to fight them for hot sauce. Anyway, this stretch of Detroit is a fast food mecca, and the more the merrier in one of those. More options means more people come there when in need. Especially late deciders like me.

The friend I'm staying with is from Indian Hill, but I think our plans center around a downtown bar crawl.

They do their St. Pats day tomorrow.

I'm going to Cincy for spring break, don't knock it. Leaving shortly. For me it's like a trip to New Orleans.

I went by the construction site for the new student center yesterday, and I'm unhappy to report that it appears to hate being on Euclid Avenue, more than its predecessor did. Even the apex of the curved front portion is a long way from the sidewalk. And similarly to E18th, there are sizaeable empty fields at the corners of the block. The whole thing is sited much further back than I had expected. The university has been doing a lot of things right lately design-wise, but this one is looking like 1960s thinking.

Those grocery stores there have some interesting items, and they all make a mean falafel. They're almost full-serve cafeterias.

Which is it, "one spot" or the whole thing? There are references to both. Given that people are about 6 feet tall, 20 v. 30 doesn't seem like a major issue.

This is a great idea.

I'm not sure there's any additional diversity to the Phoenix crowd. It is certainly a different one than the Panera crowd, but they're no less conformist than anyone else. I love that Phoenix, by the way. But I'm thinking right now of the vampire kids from South Park complaining that everyone else looks and talks the same.

It's already hopping there. You can't even cross the street sometimes, or drive down it. I wish Lakewood could put more stuff like this in the eastern part of town.

Clowns? They look like two queens! I'm glad you said that so I didn't have to.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That made my day. Sounds great-- pimp how cheap it is while falsely attributing expensive features. It's an obvious step down from light rail in several ways, fuel dependence being just one. Though I don't get why they never point out the tremendous value of being able to reroute BRT when needed. To me, that's the main advantage it holds over trains. The aspects BRT boosters tend to focus on instead are more questionable and less convincing. No, it's not equivalent to a train. Stop saying that!