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I think it looks great. Perfectly scaled. The color blends in too, and personally I love the bronze theme we have going.

In Cuyahoga County the court systems have been regionalized for a long time. Would Brecksville ever agree to merge with Garfield Heights? It pretty much already did.

Love that tower. Need more towers.

This kind of gift is better than a new building. Colleges build like crazy and then blame workers for tuition going up.

Not a lot of detail there, not even clear this happened on Franklin. And the driver might have been going 20 or less, which is the rule in these areas already.

Tis true but nobody wants to live right by an auto plant. Quaint-looking Newton Falls is just outside Lordstown but it was poor even before this happened. Their schools will probably merge with Lordstown's soon. Maybe the entire Mahoning Valley should consolidate to help it survive this.

I think you're confusing "Simcity fantasy" with some kind of a valid point. Again. As for who said public funds would be involved, the blockland people did. The thread below is about this specific project, they even mention the $150 million cost. Someone suggested we offer up the old juvenile court building. Then there's an exchange about the ROI of the Medical Mart.

This sounds more and more like the kind of investment we keep refusing to make in our neighborhoods (including this one i.e. downtown) because we're sooooo broke. And boy does it look filthy when a giant subsidy scheme is presented as anything but. Especially when we're sooooo broke. If that really is what we're talking about here, I don't want to hear any more complaints about "simcity fantasy" whenever I suggest spending public funds on urbanism, which includes drawing major retail to Tower City by reducing the rents for it. Edited to address the assertion below that these points were off-topic

This definitely comes to mind. Another silver-bullet approach, instead of doing a better job of all the little things that we still have to do anyway. Detroit, for example, recently announced a program of similar cost to rehab storefronts along its main streets and support small business tenants. Personally I would do that three times before going this direction. For one thing, the profits stay local. For another, new employment reaches areas that need it. Then again, this plan could work. Someone upthread suggested Google is part of it.

My thoughts on it are mixed. I recall Moreno seeking public funds, and it's not clear right now where this $150 million is coming from. Could be a repeat of the Medical Mart fiasco if major tenants aren't already lined up. I'm glad some retail tenants will be staying, since this will still be the city's public transit hub... converted to a thoroughly non-public use.

At least the concept makes sense. This whole development needs to quit pretending it's in Malibu.

The big plan for Waterloo was to convince artists to purchase houses nearby. Weirdly limiting. A better plan would be fixing up all the dilapidated apartment buildings. More walkable population means more support for businesses. And this neighborhood ought to be jumping and screaming for RTA rail service.

This building represents everything that's ever been bad about our city. We should move on from it. Maybe there are some Brutalist structures worth preserving but not this.

I don't know if he's a criminal or not and I'd like the investigation to go as long as it needs to. No it's not good for business, but neither is rampant corruption. At some point we have to start doing local government right.

The grocery and the gas station don't need to be close. In Medina they're across town from each other. I would be pleasantly surprised if Giant Eagle builds a store on this site, especially with the new Dave's still pretty close by.

For some reason I want to eat it.

Looking at the interior renderings, I'm struggling to see how this plan is any different from Tower City or the Galleria. And if we can't fill those why build another mall? Why not use this tenant concept for one of those malls instead?

The cheaper things are mostly outsourced now, the others can't be. And the revenues we've lost to outsourcing used to subsidize those other things. It's a graphic representation of the "giant sucking sound" Ross Perot warned of in 1992. Both parties laughed at him and we made radical changes to trade policy. Then it went exactly the way he said it would.

If you ever got a happy ending in a massage parlor, you probably got it from a slave.

Instead of supporting women, this approach makes them all sound like panicked mice. Much of feminism's current wave seems to do that. In some venues, you can't even discuss unpleasantry without trigger warnings, as if a few words are enough to liquefy someone's poor little weak little brain. It's like "the vapors" all over again-- and that was a tool to subjugate women, not to liberate them.

Those jersey barriers aren't the only impediments in play. Most of the square's north half is fenced off, with signs saying the grass needs to hibernate. That grass kidney bean with the fake hills takes up a lot of room, which is now inaccessible to humans all winter every winter. And why does the grass need protection? Because they put it in the middle of Ontario Street, the direct pedestrian route between Tower City and the courts. Now, for the betterment of grass, we're asked to take a circuitous route behind the ugly concrete retaining walls that hold up those fake hills. Hills which-- this point bears emphasis-- are now closed off to the public all winter every winter. And come spring, the precious grass will once again become Ontario Street, by necessity, and get torn up. Pedestrians were an afterthought in this design. They prioritized greenspace over humans. Gotta quit doing that.

LAND had someone on city council, who stepped down last year and is now facing charges over his improper personal interest in all those greenspace planning contracts. https://www.cleveland.com/court-justice/index.ssf/2018/04/former_councilman_joe_cimperma_1.html Meanwhile the councilman for Shaker Square has been doing something similar, through a landscaping maintenance business-- the very sort of thing these projects always create more of. He's in so much trouble right now that neither he nor his filthy CDC are involved in this project. But at the moment they're all still in power. https://www.cleveland.com/news/2018/11/fbi-probing-cleveland-councilman-ken-johnson-and-buckeye-shaker-neighborhood-group.html And yeah, LAND still gets a ton of important business from the city, like nothing ever happened.

It's crazy that the city is still doing business with LAND. I can't tell if they misunderstand urbanity or if they're fundamentally opposed to it. Either way I've had enough. But even after the Cimperman scandal we continue to give them every public dollar we can. That too is embarrassing to see.

I love it. We get to choose between this proposal from LAND Studio, or that one, or the other one. The notion of doing anything else is already off the table.

Litt writes glowing reviews of grassy fields but he seems to hate buildings.