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For 900 in Lakewood you better have a jacuzzi and all the trimmings. Outside maybe the big gold coast towers, I didn't think Lakewood had anything that high.

Best of luck to you.

OK. I hope this economy results in a move back toward large-scale apartment living. I've heard peeps about it, but haven't seen the trend really pick up steam yet. If it does, that will steer money to fixing up all the old buildings in Cleveland, particularly in depressed areas of the east side. It should also lead to new development being denser and better looking, and it will speed the reintroduction of urban retail.

There was a theory last week that the church coffeehouse was moving forward. Can't remember if it was confirmed.

Most chains are nasty about food costs and I don't blame them. It's a tough, low margin business. I remember there was always a tension between the front staff, who did relatively well on tips, versus the back staff, who made $4.25 an hour to be filthy and get yelled at. I was always in the latter group. Often the best victory we could hope for was that our cars would leak stuff onto theirs in the parking lot.

Does anyone remember the mid-90s plan in Columbus to have a giant cobalt glass snake suspended over the Broad St bridge? That would have been awesome.

They'll find some way to incorporate drywall and vinyl siding. If one of the workers accidentally creates ornamentation they'll hire someone else to come in and grind it off.

I have worked in about 20 restaurants and in NONE of them did you get free food. You're misinformed on that one. Policy-wise, that has been my experience too, no free food. But all restaurant workers get free food. Sometimes it's burnt, that's all. No problem. Just hold your horses, we'll have another garlic bread out in 5 minutes.

I didn't cut off text in the second pph, it really is edited that poorly. I assume they mean all ramps will once again be open. ODOT says all Inner Belt bridge lanes to reopen by early next year, two-span replacement in works Posted by Karen Farkas/Plain Dealer Reporter February 11, 2009 11:12AM http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2009/02/odot_chooses_twospan_option_to.html CLEVELAND — The Inner Belt bridge will be fully opened by the end of this year or early next year, a spokesman for the Ohio Department of Transportation told Cleveland City Council this morning. Bonnie Teeuwen, the director of the ODOT district that plan includes Cuyahoga County, said all ramps, including the West 14th Street ramp...

I've been poor for so long I've developed a pretty good system for cheap living. I'm used to it and I could do it indefinitely. The problem with that is women aren't partial to squalor. They aren't even partial to having less house than their friends have, as detailed above. Ladies (I know there are so many on here), start listening to your cheapskate man. He was right the whole time. An extra 5k to 10k would seriously help most people. Still, I'd prefer those restaurant jobs go to kids, because kids aren't qualified for much else. My younger brother tried really hard in high school to find a basic first-job type job, and never could get one. I think those jobs were crucial to my career development. You learn critical things about working that you can't learn elsewhere. If mid-career people in droves are looking to add restaurant jobs, that's another sign things are completely falling apart. It robs the next generation (again) of experiences we took for granted.

During the day I read medical records. This is why I haven't touched a novel in years.

Federal tax code

One time I ate nine pacszkis. So... that's not local either. Maybe not much is anymore. People eat fried steak sandwiches outside Philadelphia, but Philly acts like it's all theirs. Maybe part of having famous local cuisine is being pigheaded about it. Warren has its own "Greek" fried chicken. More garlicky than normal. The Youngstown area in general has a fascination with fried peppers in oil. Many restaurants there serve it as an appetizer with bread. People in Cleveland seem to have never encountered it, at least that's what they say when I make it.

I can barely afford a starter apartment either, but right now school is the reason. Depending on what job I get (if any) I may still be at the bottom of the apartment market for years to come. Right now I'm 32 with a roommate. I should also point out that my brother, who bought a new condo right out of college, rented out his upstairs bedroom the whole time. Paying that mortgage by himself would have been tough.

Exactly. Pierogies are not local to Cleveland. But people keep acting like they're only found here, they do it on the news. It's probably a northeastern thing and that's as local as that gets. Local would be pacszki day in Detroit. I don't think I spelled it right. The donuts from the day of the jelly donuts, which is Mardi Gras. Those are a lot more local than pierogies. Detriot and Toledo also have hot dog places around every corner. Chili dogs come with mustard standard, which isn't normal anywhere else. Cincinnati has their own version of chili, which is always identified with Cincinnati. Columbus has Wendys, and fast food is a style of food when you think about it. In Youngstown it is believed that Arbys stands for American Roast Beef Youngstown Style, and I don't think so, but Arbys came from Boardman. That's where the first one was. Some local food in Ohio like Arbys and Wendys went global, so it's like we don't get to count it anymore.

Most people I grew up with bought starter homes and are still there. That's of the ones who bought at all, which is maybe half the people. The only one I can think of who moved up to house #2 is my brother. He first bought a new suburban 2BR condo, which he still has and is trying to rent out. He just got a huge historic house in Zanesville for a little more than half what his condo is supposedly worth. I think he's a little high on the condo value. But he got that house for a song, and it's a fortress of spendor. It has mosaics. Nobody wants to be that far out from Columbus anymore, I guess. But that's where to buy right now, those small towns too far from anything to become exurbs. The ones that used to have indepenent industry and wealth. Tons of old rich people houses, there for the taking. The money all moved into the orbit of something bigger years ago. All you need is a job you can do online, or a line of work that's found anywhere. The second option requires some legwork getting a job. But if you already have one, you got that one, so it might happen.

That's why I don't think it should be allowed to happen, despite everything I said above.

You're probably right. Unlike the other two, they've been getting bad quality ratings for years. Other than trucks, they already weren't selling anything when all this trouble hit. The sad thing is that when Daimler bought them, they were flush with cash. That cash immediatley vanished and Mercedes came out with a silent laser lawnmower soon after.

I'm in Cleveland and I want to go to this.

Oh alright :-) Please note - NONE of these are under construction (thanks to the economy), but some were on their way before the bottom fell out and of them the most likely to happen would be the convention center hotel - I sized it at about 400 feet considering it would be built on a floating pad rather than caissons: Neato!

How well do you know this Lando guy, McCleveland?

Thank you R&R. You have a knack for explaining things clearly.

Then my comments don't apply to them! Then save those comments for when you address the Awful People Convention.

I like this development, which I think I stated upthread. When I made that statement I wasn't evaluating the cost. I hate housing bubbles, so to that extent yes I'm a "hater." I'm against others bidding up prices to insane levels, thereby manipulating a market they claim is some force of nature.

MTS, of course planning and budgeting are factors. But references to boot straps could also be seen as "hate," because they clearly imply individual failure. Some people had to sell their boot straps at square one, so they don't want to hear about how nice your boot straps are or what all you've attached to them.