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You guys might be changing my mind a bit. I'm going to read more on the plan. Have a good Friday.

Why would a couple pedestrian bridges over the Shoreway not solve the problem of pedestrian access, whatever the size of the park?

Montrose Harbor, Belmont Harbor, North Avenue Beach -- I don't see any functional difference between those areas and Edgewater.

Serious question, is Lakefront Drive vacant 90 percent of the time like the Shoreway is? Every time I've been to Chicago that stretch of road has tons of 24/7 traffic. The current existence of the Shoreway, by comparison, does not appear to have the same level of necessity. You are correct, Lake Shore Drive has much more traffic at off-peak hours than the West Shoreway.

327, you're right on target here, and there are thousands of people who feel and think the same way you do but have kept their mouths shut. Access to Edgewater Park = pedestrian bridges. Problem solved. I've said this from day one. Pedestrian bridges like the ones they have over -- to use a totally random example, of course -- Lake Shore Drive in Chicago.

Yet the West Side has more stable neighborhoods in the city proper, no more sprawl than the east side, and more integrated areas in the city limits.

Hence the "lite." Black militants were fighting for something. She's fighting for nothing except her own political career. It's pathetic.

I stand against John Kasich, but I don't need Nina Turner, either. She weakens our position. Legitimate gripes about Kasich letting corporations run the state get conflated with Turner's black-militant-lite shtick. She makes us reasonable left-wing folks look stupid. She needs to go away.

They're a tabloid, that's what they do. They're saying, "My God, people, take this with a grain of salt. This a publicity-hungry actor teaming up with an ideologically rigid outfit, neither of which is really in touch at all with Cleveland anymore, telling us how to run our city." Do you ignore Roger Ebert because he doesn't make his own movies, too?

It's Scene. Juvenile humor, ad-hominem attacks, and poorly researched "facts" are their stock in trade. Leave it to our alternative weekly to make the Plain Dealer look good. Actually, I think they make the PD look bad here. Very bad. Only a fool would think trickle-down economics is the solution to Cleveland's problems. Scene takes this stand, while the PD basically prints a free ad for Carey and Reason Magazine, because "they're trying to help."

Commercial drivers don't text on the road. This is akin to making a law penalizing a lumberjack for sawing his arm off.

Hide the kids, it's the "Soldier Field" of high school campuses, my alma mater, Lakewood High. The old photo is just the original main building and the adjoining women's building. The new photo includes the Civic Auditorium and New Building on the west side of the school (forgivable), as well as a gym and cafeteria smack in front of the old entrance (unforgivable).

I think he explained quite clearly what it had to do with smoking ban and I think his argument is pretty difficult to counter.

A few underrated spots for residential decay (these are really, really grimy spots): -Chapman, Page, Northview avenues in East Cleveland northwest of Euclid Avenue (Detroit-style bombed-out apts) -Woodworth (EC/Collinwood border) between 152 and St. Clair (overgrown, sinister-looking vacant lots) -streets and alleys bounded by W. 81, W.65, Lorain, and Madison. Colgate, Elton, etc. Awful neighborhood.

Interesting discussion. Regarding the "north" modifiers, North Olmsted, North Royalton, and North Ridgeville were created out of Olmsted, Royalton, and Ridgeville townships, respectively. And if you look up the old township boundaries, you start to see that the northern part of the townships saw development first in all three cases. So, when it came time for these settlements in the townships to become cities, they chose names like this. Maybe the thought process was something like, "North Royalton -- the northern part of Royalton Township." Today, the cities of North Ridgeville and North Royalton are coterminous with the old townships (but there's still more development in the northern parts), and North Olmsted is the northern part of Olmsted Township, while Olmsted Falls and unincorporated Olmsted Township make up the southern part.