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If true, pathetic.

I find it crazy that they wouldn't be able to get creative and figure something out to keep the R&D location close to the HQ site by either cleaning the Scranton location or finding something else versus putting it in freaking Brecksville?? With all the available empty land in Cleveland are there no other locations near downtown where multiple lower story buildings couldn't be found, rehabbed, added to or built? What about anywhere near midtown, flats, the lakefront, around University Circle or any number of sites. Someplace where a short walk, Uber, bike ride, scooter, RTA or Healthline trip could get anyone there fairly fast versus getting in a car and driving 30 minutes one way to deal with people in Brecksville....now that is just lame. If they do pick Brecksville something is fishy and it's not because they can't figure out an alternative (and don't go there with the hazardous materials scare or whatever). Some people on here are always jumping in whenever possible to push the burbs and I say BS, all of SW needs to be and stay in Cleveland where it was founded and thrived. Hoping this is just another hair on fire situation like we had when there were rumors of SW leaving completely. They obviously wanted to keep both locations close by choosing Scranton, if it won't work in that location then finding the next available site in Cleveland should be doable.

If you're suggesting that CC is in some way planning or even thinking of moving the corporate HQ to another city you are just plain wrong. Who are your sources exactly and what are their roles or is this coming from someone in housekeeping? I have close relations with several people who work directly with the strategic planning for the Clinic and they confirmed there is not even a whisper of what you are spouting. It's no secret that the Clinic is expanding their position as a Global Healthcare organization and will continue to expand (even very large expansions/collaborations) here in the states and across the globe but there is no threat of them moving the HQ to another area, city, state or region, period. Also the clinic does not have any problems recruiting top talent to live and work in Cleveland or not any more than any other prestigious healthcare institution. It's maddening the amount of hearsay on these boards contributing to the crazy rumor mill.

"Excellent argument. Since I'm obviously not a shareholder in anything, how much of a say do shareholders have directly in matters as big as this? From what you argue, it would seem to me that most other shareholders would also be weary of SW making a move out of Cleveland that comes with so many unknowns"... Individually it doesn't mean a lot but collectively it means everything....

This is just my opinion but: As a long time SW shareholder and from a purely financial perspective saying SW would have a tall order justifying a move out of Cleveland would be a huge understatement. Whether it’s a lateral move to a city like Pittsburgh or a higher profile (insert laugh) city like Dallas neither makes sense to me even considering the financial incentives another city will certainly offer. In Cleveland, SW is becoming the undisputed leader in their industry, insanely profitable and growing which are clear facts. Why would they want to possibly risk any or all of this with a move? Could SW be more successful in another city? This is a very large unknown and would be a huge and costly undertaking and could pose massive risks to all of their success which is something every sensible shareholder would have objections with. The CEO may not give a crap about the deep ties the company has to Cleveland, although he should, and he is only ultimately accountable to the shareholders but in this case the only sensible and sound financial decision would be to stay in Cleveland where their success is safely guaranteed backed up by business results and facts. Working for a fortune 500 company I get the whole due diligence thing but in this situation I think SW could have just come out with the decision and announced they are staying in Cleveland. Partly based on what I mentioned above they have the facts behind them to justify staying in their hometown while also being good corporate stewards by not wasting time and money on a possible risky move that could jeopardize everything. In short a SW move to another city is an exercise in futility giving them no competitive advantage.

Probably has something to do with you if something happens every time, just saying.

Much like your posts

Yeah right after you give it a rest, permanently.

Can you give it a rest, please?

This is totally disturbing and even though I don’t live in Cleveland I will write/call/email/whatever any and all city officials to help stir the pot. It would be great for us outside Ohio if someone could list the names of appropriate people we should contact. I have no idea how this process works at SW but based on your post it seems like there have been in depth serious negotiations/discussions going on between Digeronimo & SW so this shouldn’t be news to Cleveland city officials right? I mean they must be aware and if so already on top of things with a kick ass offering loaded with incentives to make sure SW stays in Cleveland. I can’t imagine there wouldn’t be high level established relationships between SW & Cleveland city officials, no? Maybe these are just preliminary discussions before SW issues a formal RFP? My experience with large corporate clients in California is that this process is just part of their due diligence and I’m hoping that this is the case here with SW & Digeronimo. Otherwise this is absurd.

Whatever.

I understand the concern about Voss moving but I would think the current employees that are Ohio City residents will remain so, I mean Berea is like what 12 miles away?

This is absolutely unacceptable and people need to make sure these establishments hear from everyone, even if this Tony George doesn't actually own Town Hall, Crop or the rest of them any longer, he sure is acting as though he does. I have already called both Town Hall and Crop to let them know we will not step foot in any of their restaurants any longer and left my contact info. They need to put out a clear and strong rebuf disavowing the statements from this tony George person.

Where is the outrage from people on this site to this amaingly arrogant post? Here we have people who have put their blood, sweat and tears not to mention money and passion into giving Cleveland a little bit of sophistication for their clothing options and now have to close their doors and this person who is actually a Mod on this forum wants an apology because she anticipated their demise? I mean WTF? Just flipping amazing...so disgusting. I wonder how the people over at Drudgers feel or for that matter any person out there that is actually putting their lives on the line to make Cleveland a great city again.

To me this is really sad and pathetic. This shop was in no way over priced especially compared to shopping in any city considering much of the clothes were all designed and made in the U.S.! If this store can't survive then nothing even close will do better. It's Target or Walmart, how sad and telling for the area. Downtown is light years away from anything even remotely nice.