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The juice isn't worth the squeeze, and Bibb needs to back out this Modell law nonsense. There are far more critical local issues demanding Bibb's attention and city resources; trying to enforce a seemingly intentionally flawed law is not one of them.

Wasn't there a case where a city (Seattle?) got an injunction against a big employer from locating to a non-union state solely because it would essentially be union busting? I can't find that article anywhere this morning.

So now it's a $3-3.5 billion project, which includes $2 billion in private funding? We hate you too Dave.

I guess people really like Pizzazz.

I think we all know Burke was neither a serious offer by Bibb nor received any real consideration by Haslam. Just too many complications and hassle for limited benefit, and Jimmy didn't want to be 85 for game one. And Bibb knew that. And we knew that. If Cleveland ever closes the airport, it's because there's true, realized demand for the land, not to appease a lying businessman or enthusiastic boosters who imagine some kind of Candyland development.

I think they have as much interest in Cleveland as the Ratners. The ship has sailed with those families.

Seems like County is on board with Bibb. Guess Cleveland has a few model citizens after all, just not on the field. Next up, State. At some point DeWine will have to comment, and the Bengals funding has all the momentum. Hopefully Columbus can pressure him to refuse the extortion. Brookpark better call FedEx and start printing some bonds.

If parents refuse to parent, kids/teens are endlessly disruptive, and communities refuse to self-police, I can't blame restaurants, malls and other establishments from taking mitigating measures. I'm sure Beachwood Place isn't crazy about curfews, but they're less crazy about the hostilities and problems that seem to plague every f-cking city, neighborhood, fair, and mall eventually. And since businesses can't really target behavior because of certain overlaps, then they push this collective punishment on all kids and adolescents.

Hey Heinen's brothers, how much do you like planes and traffic?

Then why have the law at all? I don't think litigation is a good use of city resources, but the law is pretty poor leverage if it's never validated.

And what will all this cost? Seeking an injunction, court fees, legal fees, endless appeals. Figure $500,000-$2,000,000. https://fox8.com/news/i-team-city-of-cleveland-going-to-court-to-keep-the-browns/ First on Fox 8: CLE going to court to keep the Browns

At this point even Haslam's supporters must know that entertainment district is fiction. As for the Browns leaving, they do have to play somewhere in September 2029 unless he and Bibb work out a yearly lease. If it takes three years to properly build a stadium, they don't have a lot of wiggle room. Highway ramps and rail expansion solely to improve access to a roofed stadium... in a very compressed time period... in a stagnant region where no one really wants it... with this team in particular... I just don't see how that plays out.

What's most realistic ultimately, Jimmy gets everything he wants in Cleveland, Brookpark, San Antonio, or London before September 2029? I just don't see how NE Ohio has the advantage beyond the team's incumbency. Maybe Watson was an intentional poison pill. It certainly would make sense in a script.

Decided by whom? They don't own the land or have permissions and financing for road improvements, or have funding for a stadium, or have funding and tenants for some fantasy Jimmyworld. When do you think we'll start seeing Caterpillars nearby? 2026? We're 10 weeks away from 2025 already. God knows how much Model law challenges, whether constitutional or not, will delay any groundbreaking. This could be years of litigation. Maybe they'll move there, but you've got to believe it's not locked in.

British and European markets are relatively untapped though, and Browns fans are exhausted and burned out. This might be an opening for a non-expansion relocation.

I think that began today. Garrett and Winston's tone deaf and ignorant reactions will have consequences.

Adios rapist. Hope the pain is unbearable.

I still think this is a ploy to move them to a different state (or country?). The Haslems do not have public funding, and it's unclear if they can privately finance. They do not own the Brookpark property. Primacy Development has 16 months to buy the property. The existing notice of a purchase agreement isn't s**t. They do not have a master plan on highway and utility improvements - and certainly no federal/state/local permits, permissions, commitments, and time frames. They have a furious base, a furious city, a county of mixed opinion, and an ambivalent state. And they need to play somewhere in September 2029. That isn't that far away.

He won't make us do s**t. The man has no leverage with city, county or state. If I'm Bibb, stop returning phone calls or emails. What's done is done unless the grifter wants to play at Browns stadium post '28. Jimmy can call Parma or Triv or the KKK or Putin if he needs cash. If I'm Ronayne, only respond with an incredibly favorable agreement that includes profit-sharing on ALL games, events, hotels, restaurants, and retail that take place in Jimmyworld. In perpetuity. No more goddamm local cannibalizing. If I'm DeWine, focus on the Bengals and MAGA's eventual revenge against mildly less corrupted Republicans. Leave NE Ohio alone. Also, hope to see Richardson leave early and let Flacco play the majority of the game. And good to see Baker on Monday night against the s-hitbirds.

Oops - Dee hit the enter button. Dear Browns Fans, I deeply apologize for the disappointing season we’ve endured. Your unwavering support and passion for the Browns deserve much better, and I take full responsibility for our shortcomings. This season has been a tough one, but I want to assure you that we are committed to making the necessary changes to build a team that reflects the pride and dedication of our incredible fanbase. Despite the setbacks, there are reasons to be optimistic. We have a talented core of players who are determined to bounce back stronger. Our coaching staff is dedicated to learning from this season and implementing strategies to improve our performance. Additionally, we are actively seeking to strengthen our roster through smart acquisitions and draft picks. Thank you for your loyalty and patience during this challenging time. Together, we will strive for a brighter future and bring the success you deserve. Sincerely, the Grifters

The last thing Trump, Moreno, Haslem, and other MAGA freaks are thinking about is the betterment of a blue city or blue/purple region. Specifically, Haslem has done nothing but lie, mislead, lead on, and waste Cleveland's time. He is not a developer and Cleveland and the region are blips on his 10-figure portfolio. The guy has far more going on than this distraction. No county money. No state money. Jimmy's as much a charlatan as those two bozos. Let the suburbanites Go Fund or tithe the grift. However, I am looking forward to the end-of-season apology letter Jimmy will be sending. I'm sure the prompt has already been entered in Gemini.

Someone put in Sizemore or Haffner!!!

Let's take a look at Gavin's statistics... Jesus, how did this team win over 90 games??? And now Gill... Christ, I better start early again.

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All right Manzardo!! ...whoever the hell you are.