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For independently wealthy people or retirees, sure, I can see some interest. But if you're of working age, why on earth would you intentionally live in such an impovershed region. Articles like these feel like glorified advertorials. Wasn't there a DailyMail article several weeks ago about how Toledo is the best bang-for-your buck city in the US? No offense to Toledo, but that seems like a stretch. They're just opinion pieces ultimately with a few biased facts here and there.

$600,000/unit for a self-contained tower isolated within a sketchy area is a pretty big gamble. All the best to them, but I'm skeptical.

Missouri said no to the Chiefs and Royals extortion. God bless 'em. Sox aren't getting s-hit, and despite Chicago's idiot mayor's giddiness, the existing Bears proposal is completely DOA. Also, the Ricketts put their money into their Wrigley Field despite some back-and-forth with locals. Cities need to say no, demand profit-sharing agreements (Jesus wept, how is that NOT a starter) with guaranteed reimbursements by x year, and accept some teams will then move. Fine, let the new cities enjoy those albatrosses. In England football stadiums are generally privately funded, yet, miraculously, life goes on. Amerian cities and local leaders need to grow some balls and demand the same (or profit-sharing agreements with signifiant ROI).

The absolute peak of Cleveland and perhaps the US. That stretch in between WW2 and Korea was something that cannot be replicated.

A lot of factors are required for intelligent, sentient life to occur naturally and without divine involvement. The fact that it happened once is virtually impossible. But twice? And that those beings would visit our planet? Unlikely and highly unlikely.

I think a town hall of sorts would be beneficial and appropriate, as Bibb's lack of communication isn't helpful. Is he focusing on more serious issues, of course. Do the Browns truly benefit the city or morale, who knows. But, for whatever reason, the Browns stadium and team itself is part of the Greater Cleveland zeitgeist, and I can't imagine prepared statements, even an open forum, would affect current or upcoming negotiations. Leadership silence leads to useless speculation and a lot of wasted time, and a good mayor needs to seen as proactive, focused, and providing proper messaging instead. Bibb is the city/region ambassador and leader and has an obligation to keep people informed. My hunch, probably like most of yours, is there have been very limited conversations/negotiations, as both sides are waiting for the other to blink, or for KJP to break a story, and they're just in holding patterns.

It's all very paradoxical, and I'm a bit cynical about the reality of CPI and PPI's relationship to the economy, which in itself is subjective (is endless GDP growth really that important?). And those numbers don't seem to run inversely with interest rates (anymore), certainly not from 08-22, and jobs, or rather generally lower paid jobs, seem completely disconnected. Commercial real estate collapsing and AI are still decimating tech and other traditionally mid-to-higher income jobs. Interest rates dropping to 3 or 4% probably won't have a longterm impact.

There isn't anywhere near the love for this 138-264-1 team as it had prior to the relocation. The city's population/supporters have fallen 20% since the move, the suburb populations stagnant with some visible decline since the move, Harvey f'ing Weinstein is the starting quarterback in the most insulting contract of all time, and, save for the drunk muni idiots, there isn't much conversation supporting this grift. Even the zealots on reddit/browns aren't in solidarity of paying off the criminals. Bribing the billionaires so the millionares can throw a ball are the last things on many people's minds these days.

I think there is a general malaise the Browns will inevitably leave the region due to the financial traps, godawful suggested locations, and general economic realities. The Modell law, even if enforceable, isn't a solution since no billionaire will fund a stadium when Salt Lake City, San Antonio, London, etc would happily do so. Bibb and county leadership frankly have far bigger priorities than to answer a criminal billionaire's extortion, and the fans of today are not that of 30 years ago.

Value/worth are pretty funky words in general. If I sell my million dollar home to you for a $500,000, is it worth half a million dollars or twice that? If the US economy is $34 trillion in debt compared to its 26 trillion dollar GDP, is it worth -$8 trillion? If I have $1 million in stocks frozen due to litigation and $100,000 in the bank, am I worth $1.1 million? $100,000? It's all a bit subjective and semantic'y. No real point - just waiting for the Guardians game honestly.

I don't inherently have an issue with initiatives like these on principle, but implementation is a whole other beast. Women working in trades as a whole requires far more than the usual lip service, and those efforts probably need to start when they're at high school or college age.

I believe the answer is nothing. The Haslems have only committed to their being noncommittal as to location, financing, and surrounding fantasy developments.

Interesting article. I need to reread it again to fully digest.

Their parents are totally abdicating their legal responsibility and should be punished too i.e. the Crumbleys. Frankly, if the kids are living in environments where this behavior is shrugged off, condoned, even applauded, they should be removed at very early ages and put in highly monitored and reformed modern-day orphanages. Not all parents can and should parent, and we need to get the kids out of those communities before the damage is irreversible. You need a license to fish but not to raise a human being; I do not understand this world.

I don't think anyone would oppose those approaches, but the poison is so deeply rooted in generational hood culture, I don't know if they'd be effective. Deindustrialization and Johnson's War on Crime/Poverty have sabotaged black families more than those ideas could repair them. I was watching clips of the Wattstax concert. God, could you imagine a comparable event today and its consequences. It's been a rough 60 years.

All that TSA so as not to offend would-be subjects of behavioral screenings. Airports are proudly leading the charge to the race to the bottom with schools in second place.

You're not wrong, but my god do you ever opine anything positive?

^^Sure, it's a big country, and people have dramatically different experiences. However, I would imagine impoverished cities generally have more unhappy people than those where higher wages and standards of living are prevalent. I don't think we're disagreeing really. ^An economic recession or job recession? Seems like we're in the latter in many ways. Really, we need a better consensus for the word "recession" since GDP negative growth isn't particularly relatable and helpful. And I'm not of the opinion that a brief recession, assuming we're already not in one, will lower inflation rates. Our $34 trillion debt alone (damnit, I said deficit in an earlier post) will remain in a huge thorn until very unpopular decisions are made.

I think the term recession is pretty outdated as it is. Regardless of GDP growth, a lot of people in traditionally mid- to- higher wage jobs are in the midst of a dreadful job market. The 30+ trillion dollar deficit in conjunction with an aging population, collapsing education and educators, and the upcoming fallout from commercial real estate's meltdown and AI's further destruction of the job market = how can anyone truly be bullish on this and the near future economy.

Those programs may have some impact over time, but what do we do about violent thugs in real time during or after an incident? America absurdly tolerates violent crime, and has pretty much abandonned mitigating measures due to inevitable racial implications, but beat cops definitely make an impact on crime prevention.

What is this bollcks. https://www.cnbc.com/2024/05/22/amazon-plans-to-give-alexa-an-ai-overhaul-monthly-subscription-price.html Frankly, this feels a bit predatory. Every company seems to be throwing out the term "AI" more and more with their services, even though they really aren't supplying AI. Alexa having a few new features is not AI. Meta's search page using the words AI is not AI. Bank of America being "AI powered", whatever that even means, is not AI. McDonald's using Google Cloud to apply AI generative solutions (what in the name of all dieties does that mean) is not AI. God knows when job boards or checks/cashed stores or streaming services or customer services will start calling themselves "AI infused" or "AI enhanced" or "AI unused verb". For better or worse, mostly worse, AI, or some form of it, is being used on corporate and backend levels. I accept that. But once it starts reaching consumers, there really needs to be monitoring and/or standardizations to prevent these FLAGRANTLY false advertisements.

I get it's easy to be cynical and refute ideas, and I'd like to change tone and be bullish about a stadium, but it's hard to take this one seriously. “That little thing right there. The casino? Yes, that will pay for everything,” Corna said. “The economics behind this are far superior to Brook Park. Far superior.” What? “All he needs is 10 minutes with me to see this,” Corna said. “He’ll see it. He’ll see it right away. Every question they’re running into in Brook Park, it’s been answered here. You can’t deny how wonderful that would be on the water front for people to live there, shop there, entertain there, gambling, it would all tie it together, I hope they see that.” What again? I'm sorry but I think that Ferrari dealership is about 1000 times more likely than this "proposal".

https://6abc.com/post/philadelphia-city-employees-must-work-on-site-5-days-per-week-starting-in-july-mayor-parker-announces/14847496/#:~:text=PHILADELPHIA (WPVI) -- Mayor Cherelle,news conference on Monday morning. "“Employee presence at the workplace allows for more personal and productive interaction, it facilitates communication, it promotes social connections along with collaboration, innovation and inclusion,” she said." Fukkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk you mayor.

Lol, who are these loons?

I don't know if you've walked in that area, but I have, and it just feels super disconnected to the downtown core. Hell, that whole stretch of E.9th south of the stadium feels like a large road to nowhere until it dead-ends to a dead'ish part of the Flats. I mean if we get it, great, maybe it'll be a success and spark some ancillary development. But shouldn't there be some kind of master plan that involves these kinds of large-scale projects, especially when publicly funded, so that they aren't built piecemeal but rather are interconnected? It just feels like another Browns stadium island, in which there is no outside development, not really, just people driving to and from for the most part. Which, again, I don't have an issue with if privately financed. But if taxpayers are on the hook, then there needs to be a visible effort and plan to integrate those investments into the city core. No more medical mart bulls**t.