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Are you a good swimmer? Canada is across Lake Erie from Ohio. You will have to go to Detroit and head South, or to Niagara Falls and head West. Since 9/11, travel to Canada has tightened up. Passport is helpful, but you have to show US citizenship. Ease or difficulty depends a lot on the individual border guard. I've had a-holes on the American side, but not crossing into Canada. Leave your stash at home ...

Four words come to my mind when it comes to Dayton music: Isley Brothers Ohio Players As for all things Michigan: learn the difference between Univ. of Mich and Michigan State. Only hate things maize and blue related. Some of your fellow forumers have divided loyalties (The Pope and myself included. {side note to the Pope: Will L.B. Patterson ever forgive me?}) November 5th? Someone recommend a place for her to buy a parka ... And a side note on religion: Central Ohio has traditionally had the highest per capita population of Methodists of any place in the country. Not exactly holy rollers ... ...Cleveland Native, living (Up North to you) in Arkansas.

Born in Ohio City , Cleveland. 3rd generation West Sider. Avon Lake Michigan (I generally claim Michigan as where I'm from) Arkansas Ozarks Kansas City LA Berkeley SF San Joaquin Valley Memphis Arkansas Delta Since hanging out on this board, I have become extremely interested in Cincinnati, enough that I learned how to spell it ...

I am a native Buckeye, raised in Michigan. Toledo feels as much Ohio to me as Dayton. This issue was decided years ago in the bloody Toledo War, Ohio won. Michigan got the Upper Peninsula as a parting gift. Rob, I wish I had your phone number when I broke down in Fort Wayne in June. I really enjoy your input on this forum. The Census Bureau recognizes only three races, white is the same as Caucasian, which includes Arabs and Irish. Cdawg ... more, please ,,,

Oh Rob, you are so not innocent ...

Very interesting. But what is the deal with Springfield? How come the property crime rate is so high?

oops, sorry, I meant punch

Hush now, Grasscat ... don't spoil the good mood ...

Good for Cleveland. I am old enough to remember its rapid skid -- burning river, burning streets, burning mayor ... But now it's real estate that.s burning! Yay Cleveland!

As far as I can tell, he doesn't have a third hand (oh my)

PS Wimwar, Won't the new boulevard replace the current roadway?

Fantastic! With the Rapid , and the I-90 freeway, West Side residents are well connected to Downtown. The Shoreway is redundant. Maybe Cleveland can atone for some of its sins from the destruction of West Blvd. , Lorain and other streets for I-90. Now, let's see some highrise residence towers to expand the Cleveland skyline beyond Downtown! ...dreaming in Dixie ...

Oh! But it's sooo trendy!

Just checked to make sure my link worked, and discovered alot of updates at the deadmalls.com site! Check it out : three Cincinnati malls, one Dayton, and one Columbus. Your excellent additions to this website would be appreciated. certainly there are other malls you guys cruised that have seen better days. I remember when Randall Park Mall was the biggest in the world (briefly before MOA and the one in Edmonton) with eight anchor stores! Parmatown had a cineplex! The malls are accessed through mall features tab on upper left. Enjoy, and report back please ... Cleveland Westside Pride ...

Uncle Bill's ???? Haven't heard that name in years! A site I love (not updated enough) with a decent Ohio section is www.deadmalls.com Cleveland Westside pride

Thanks grasscat. Macy's just bumped Goldsmiths from their Memphis area stores. My mom worked at Sterling Linder in Cleveland during WWII, and I think it was Sterling Welch&Linder. I'll call her later and check. West side Cleveland had its own dept store on W. 25th St. called Fries and Schueles.(Pronounced Freez and Sheelees) I spent many hours riding up and down the elevators until the operators got tired of me(then I'd move to the stairs). I believe I have read that Fries and Schueles is now condos. But one elevator has been preserved for a mail room. Damn Dillards, I miss Higbees. Christmas has never been the same ...

I'm so glad Cleveland has such thoughtful people watching over it. Don't let down your guard. My hometown just keeps getting better. I wish I could be part of it ...

Detroit has a similar sad story of an uncompleted subway plan. At least Cleveland had the Rapid! Many exciting childhood memories of getting on at W 117th and emerging in Terminal Tower or University Circle. A subway station at W 85th? Thay would have done wonders for that part of Cleveland!

Woolly bear, welcome. Seems like Toledo is getting better represented here all the time. Where else but the US could a new 32 story building be obsolete? How sad for Toledo ...

X your description is right on.

Avon Lake is my hometown. My parents moved there in the 50s. Our house predated most of Cleveland's older suburbs, though it was new at the time. Spwawl hit that neck of the woods 50 years ago! We lived off Lake, and all was developed from there to Cleveland. Avon was pretty rural though, sorry that's gone...

Thank God it's in Kentucky! Maybe most geography challenged Americans will not associate it with Cincinnati. (What a sense of accomplishment being able to spell that word! Cincy is a copout, Nati is just plain gross...)

The bridge idea is awesome! Now, tell me more about the new neighborhood that will be developed ...

This was my first enclosed mall, the most convenient to my aunt's Westside Cleveland neighborhood. It is delicious irony that these malls that pushed the decline of Downtown (Higbee's, May CO, and Halle's in my memory) are threatened by places farther out. If this subject interests you, you might enjoy www.deadmalls.com. Ohio is well represented ...

But drive a freeway in Memphis, Miami or Montana -- when you see an Ohio plate, does it matter whether it's Ashland Ashtabula or Auglaize? Out in the world we are One Ohio ...