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The Nashville rendering looks cooler.

lafont - There's a couple of entrances along Euclid, so it's confusing as to where one building ends and where one begins. But to answer your question - Rosetta is going into the back of the building where the hotel is - they share the same historic hallway. Hotel is on Euclid, Rosetta is actually on Vincent. tedders55 - We internal renovations won't be done till early next year, so I'm guessing the external signage won't be for a bit.

You're right. Even if the number of "bad apples" remains the same, if we can increase the number of good apples, the overall feeling may improve. (and please no "one bad apple spoils the bunch" note here...) Ampitheater - Maybe. Even if the four quadrant setup remained the same, if they could make some permanent, outdoor, public gathering space with built in seating of some type, that could be something people would go to. But then you have to PROGRAM it. People aren't just going to show up. Something has to be scheduled at least once a week. Dog park - As a downtown dog owner, I really want a dog park downtown as I'm sure the 900 downtown dogs do as well. And I know there's discussion of it. And dog owners would go there. My only hesitation to putting it in Public Square would be the giant fence that comes along with the dog park. Would it fit in within that setting? I'm not sure. Fountains - You mean NEW fountains? There's already a fountain in the northeast quadrant. I like the idea of a "water feature" where kids could play in. Although suburban parents probably won't come downtown JUST for a water feature. It's something they'd go to in addition to something else (like a free concert in the ampitheater). And there's the whole issue of people bathing/peeing in it.

Call the Downtown Cleveland Alliance at 216-621-6000. If they can't send an ambassador there, they will contact the police for you. Also, these calls are documented and used by police and DCA to figure out where they should put their resources. If panhandling calls from Public Square increase tenfold, that area will become a priority.

Correct. It's one building, but we're more in the back. Even though our address is 629 Euclid, we're really more on Vincent. And you can get to our elevators quicker by entering on Vincent than you can by entering on Euclid.

Eh, it's just a preference. However, if someone leaves a sport event at Gateway, or a concert at House of Blues, or a comedy show at Pickwick, or a show at PlayhouseSquare, they're probably not going to walk across a half mile bridge to Ohio City. Yes, there are "imaginary lines" at EC said, but there are real lines like a river and giant bridges. So that might be something a business would consider...

I work for Rosetta. (we do interactive digital marketing, btw. not really software) We'll be on floors 11-15 of the old National City building, plus we're building a new "penthouse" level on the roof, which will be level 17 (16 is a mechanical floor). It's construction of the penthouse level that's caused that crane to be parked on East 6th now and then. That will probably be the last floor to be completed, sometime in spring. Currently, there are people from Rosetta working in the building. I'm on in a temporary space on the third floor and some of my coworkers are on 12 and 13. Hopefully the 11th floor will be done soon (which is where I'll ultimately be) and when the rest is done, they'll shut down the Beachwood office and move everyone downtown. Sorry if this is off topic but just wanted to answer some speculation. No, the PNC renovations have nothing to do with us.

Points of interest from the article: - Financing could be in place soon for the new Ernst and Young building and the rest of the $275 million East Bank of the Flats project. - The money is coming from a lot of different sources: Wolstein Group, Fairmount Properties, state, local, private, etc... However, it's still challenging and there's still a lot of "pushing and shoving" going on. As people have stated here before, it's hard to get a $275 million loan these days. - The announcement was made Thursday night at Shooters at a trade group seminar for real estate developers and other vendors. - The article recapped the East bank history: buildings were demolished but work suddenly stopped in October 2008 (geez, it's been two years?) due to the national credit crisis. Before that, lenders were willing to give the project $120 million. After - just $44 million. - Iris Wolstein pledged another $10 million and they decided to do the project in phases, instead of all at once. Then they started the process of trying to get more money from different sources. - First phase: 450,000 sq. ft. office tower (first new one downtown in almost 20 years), 150 room hotel, retail, and restaurant complex, along with a parking garage and riverfront redevelopment. - Second phase: Residential and retail. This will be greenspace until the market recovers. - It was hoped the project would restart this summer. But even with Cleveland City Council revising some elements of their financial incentives, every still failed to close. It's a tough financial market out there.

And hopefully their experience in college will be good enough to make them want to stay downtown when they're done.

Is this at all related to the Niko's Greek restaurant that was (is?) in Lakewood?

I was for this idea until I realized there were 32 bus stops in Public Square. So now imagine all the bus stops on Superior and Ontario in Public Square being moved to the perimeter. It would be a wall of bus stops and buses. And talk about "running the gauntlet" now. You'd have to bust through a wall of people to get to the square. It's the bus stops that are holding us back. It's RTA that's holding this back. People that walk through Public Square now do it out of necessity. Even if you make it more appealing, without solving the bus problem I don't see massive amounts of people suddenly hanging out there anymore than I see people having their lunch in the Greyhound station.

I'm still sticking with my story that I said back in August: that Danielle (the owner of Room Service) is opening a retail store in that location on East 4th -- in addition to the one she's moving to West 25th.

I was sitting in a Downtown Cleveland Alliance city advocates meeting a few months back when RTA CEO Joe Calabrese came to speak to the group. He hates all three of the Public Square redesigns. Anything that would make RTA have to move one stop or change one route or cause disruption in service for one day, he is against. His opinion is that Public Square has been and always should be a transportation hub. The biggest problem in redeveloping Public Square is that it is a major transfer hub for RTA. The stereotype of Public Square (rightly or wrongly, perception is reality) is that it's where hoodlums hang out while waiting for the bus. And it's dirty because for some reason, a lot of the people waiting for the bus seem (again, rightly or wrongly) to have little respect for their surroundings and treat the sidewalks like their own personal trash dumps. Now, if you could increase the people hanging out in Public Square ten-fold while keeping the hoodlum population at its current level, it might not seem as bad. But unfortunately, I'm skeptical this could be done. I think the four quadrants make it difficult and I just don't see those four quadrants changing because Calabrese is going to bitch and moan if anyone tries to change it, saying it's going to bring RTA to a screeching halt. Why our PUBLIC Square should be held hostage to one organization, I don't know, but due to political BS, that's the way it is. BTW, does anyone know how RTA is funded or who they report to? What percentage of their revenue comes from fares and what are the other sources?

"West 25th is luring some retailers away from other up-and-coming Cleveland neighborhoods. Since opening on Detroit Avenue in late 2007, Room Service has become known for eclectic products and DeBoe's ever-growing "Made in the 216" sales of local merchandise. As the store outgrew its 650 square feet, DeBoe could not find the perfect space nearby. Room Service closed this month and will reopen in Ohio City by late November, in 2,000 square feet that last housed an Amish furniture store." http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2010/10/retail_tenants_join_market_dis.html

I've been in the Chesterfield a few times and it does have potential. Walking through it, you get the feeling that it used to be a really classy place. They have the pool, ground level retail, great location, good views, an attached parking garage, nice big lobby, etc...

Ouch. Too soon....

From the article: "But the Group Plan Commission hopes to work more with designers LMN and GGN, which have planned the convention center roof to withstand its current weight load, including the soil, grass and as many people as can stand there."

I saw that. No, I wasn't involved. There were some people with the City Advocates programs at the Downtown Cleveland Alliance that brought this up to me. Maybe they started that..

As an example, they still listed the Campus District as "The Quadrangle". So I updated that this morning. The section still talks a lot about CSU... Maybe a little too much since CSU has its own Wikipedia page?

Hey, all. A lot of us know a lot about downtown Cleveland and spend a lot of time here sharing our knowledge. But when you Google "downtown cleveland", one of the first results you see is the Wikipedia page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downtown_Cleveland). And a lot of this page is horribly out of date. Some of the pictures have been updated more recently, but a lot of the text is old. For example, here are some areas that could use some work: - Update language/NAME on Euclid Corridor section - Remove/amend Stark project (also fix corresponding mention in Warehouse District) - Mention of 668 Euclid - Update E 4th plans/stores - Update language/years at end of Avenue District - Update Flats with latest plans for FEB - Update convention center section with details about the new Mall C plans - Update Lakefront plans? - Update population stats in first paragraph with something more recent (and amend "Others" section's population line) - New CSU developments (and change Quadrangle to Campus District?) - Add in something about the Medical Mart - Add a section about the Casino (and temporary casino) - Add section/mention about Downtown Cleveland Alliance and the special improvement district - Add section about District of Design - Add section about Perk Park redevelopment As you probably know, ANYONE can edit a Wikipedia article. Just click the "Edit" tab near the upper right corner of the screen! You don't even need a Wikipedia account to do this, however signing up for one will give you a lot of added benefits. Wikipedia does have some formatting tricks (like this forum does) but it's not that difficult if you look at what's currently there. There's also a "View History" tab where you can see other changes that have been made recently. This makes it very easy to undo someone's changes as well. Be careful when posting images -- Wikipedia editors are VERY picky about copyrights and such. I can't think of a better group to modify the downtown Cleveland Wikipedia article than the people on this forum. This is one of the main pages the world uses to learn about our city! Let's make it rock.

I know they're still early designs, but I hope the giant "CLEVELAND CONVENTION CENTER" sign on the south side of Lakeside gets changed... And picture #9 with what looks to be a four story wall of glass... Which direction is that facing? At first I thought it was the northern most point, but looking outside, there's buildings and some sort of grassy area... Is that facing west towards the county complex between Lakeside and St. Clair? If so, I didn't realize how much glass windows there would be on the sides.

I still can't help but cringe somewhat when I hear about the hacking up of the Allen Theater into smaller theaters. I guess it's a good thing that we'll have more theaters, but isn't a lack of larger theaters a negative? I know, if there was a big enough demand those big theaters (like the Allen) would have been filled to capacity, but there wasn't and this is much better than tearing them down. Still, it doesn't seem like the perfect situation...

Has there ever been a rendering on Urban Ohio that no one has complained about?

Caption on the picture from inside: "Views from the upper floors of the Tudor Arms building overlook the Cleveland Clinic campus." Judging by the picture, it should say views from the upper floors of the Tudor Arms building overlook the a Cleveland Clinic parking lot. HEY-O! Yup, it's Urban Ohio, people. Get used to it.

We shall see, my friend. We shall see.