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I was visiting my folks in Northern Stark County last week, the sprawl there is insane and endless between Akron and Canton

That was cool, thanks! Looks better and a lot less freeway-like than I was expecting

Wow, that license plate is horribly unsophisticated...then again that is the path Ohio leaders seem to prefer.

Hold the phone....Meijer opening an urban store in Cleveland is a big deal...especially in a marginal neighborhood. Some people are way too negative.

My Mom always made city chicken. I have a friend at work that talks about Johnny Marzetti and is from Columbus. I never heard of it, but it's basically what my Mom called a macaroni casserole and is also called Goulash. Hamburger Station in Akron is sliders that are 100 times better than White Castle. And JoJo's (breaded potato wedges )seemed to be and Akron thing too. Almost forgot Lawson's chip dip!! Still sold at Circle K but only in a limited area around NE Ohio. Also a Lawson's thing...who had a "ChipChop Ham" sandwich in their lunchbox? And Cleveland Coke made with sugar not HFCS

I assumed the HQ of Bdubs would have been in Columbus since that's where it started. Ugh Atlanta!

That's great about the Cultural Garden, I'm surprised there wasn't one. Lorain is listed as the city in Ohio that has the largest percentage of Mexican population with Painsville second. It makes sense that Cleveland's would be growing more and more. The second generation has a lot of nurses and teachers, and Cleveland pays pretty well for both.

Great pics, I just love that building

Looks like they also like a goofy streetlight in Milwaukee just like Cleveland, so I think you might be on to something😃

Chicago is also losing it's strong middle class black population. Would be interesting to study this more in depth, and what should have been done to retain that population in these older northern cities. Where are the black empty nesters going that bought homes in strong stable neighborhoods in the 60's, 70's and 80's on the east side? And how do you retain the best and brightest young ones that seem to move away to places like Atlanta. Did we just take that population for granted? I feel like Mike White, despite his faults, was the last Mayor in Cleveland that actually cared about the East Side and keeping it stable. He claims he would be driven around those neighborhoods and send out city services to fix things he'd see broken or clean up trash. Not sure if that was true though.

The thought of boarding a bus with no bus pass to pay for the ride and asking to buy a pass at that point never even crossed my mind. Sounds very cumbersome and slow for the bus and isn't normal as far as I know from using other systems. I'd think the people boarding behind me would be pissed and annoyed. Neither COTA employee mentioned that option either. My friend and I don't live in Columbus, we were just visiting.

They might be just out of certain food items and drinks. Went to a place in Chicago recently out of chicken, Pizza dough and half of the beer taps were tapped out. They don't have the stock, and can't get it due to supply logistics. Probably uncertainty on even how much stock to order as well. Weekends of rain followed by beautiful unexpected weather...plus not enough staff.

I was recently in Columbus and went to the COTA transit center on Capitol Square. The sign said day passes were an option, but it was nowhere to be found on the machines. Ended up going inside to ask the employee and she thought you could buy one on the machine...but after fooling around with the machine, concluded as we did that it was not possible. She even asked a bus driver if she knew how to buy one. She suggested going to another machine up north on High St and that machine did indeed have the option. Seemed weird the main transit center had this glitch, and had signs that clearly stated you could buy one. Ohio Public transit is so ass-backward. GCRTA is just as bad, if not worse for tourists that don't know the system.

I can't read the crains article, but my wish is that the main street though the valley was transformed into an actual main street with a walkable downtown street facade and street parking with sidewalks that have street patios for dining. I think that would be the shot in the arm for that area. A (new town)version of Highland Square, That commercial strip sucks for such a dense area.

I still think allowing Terminal Tower to reflect off the facade of 55 public square, if it means a squat building with a taller tower behind it makes sense. Sitting in PS, that is what you will see (and it's a lovely sight), a panorama of sights. We need to get over it. Building a tall tower in front of 55 removes it from being part of the square...and she works as a pretty girl at the party. Don't make her a wallflower. I think the architects and Sherwin Williams are thinking of these things. And the taller tower placing fills in a needed gap in the skyline from certain angles. More bang for the buck IMO in a CBD that needs to fill a lot of dead parking lots, and doesn't have a lot of people lining up to build on them. It's kinda like putting mirrors on a wall in your house to make it feel bigger and more grand. Probably a bad analogy I will regret.

I like this plan the more I look at, it still lets 55 public square be a prominent part of the square instead of blocking it, and creates a layered multi tiered effect like a room with varying heights of things around it. I really like 55 though. I think its a good approach at filling in gaps in a CBD like Cleveland's.

I won't claim to have grown up in the hood, I didn't, but it is great on forum like this to have your perspective. During my time at CSU I worked at an athletic shoe store at Randall Park Mall and lived in North Collinwood and Buckeye/Shaker. None of those places had any super organized gang activity, but some troublemakers...yes. You are correct, Cleveland had some of it, but really small time compared to other cities historically. That sucks to hear that you think that has changed.

I don't know, it was data and statistics we were taught in multilple classes. And yes, that was the 90's so things may have changed which I think was the poster's point, that it seems to be becoming a problem now.

Cleveland definitely has always had a super poverty bad behavior problem. That's different than hardcore rooted gang activity fighting over turf, which historically it avoided...for a while at least.

@inlovewithCLEYou are correct, Cleveland never had a hardcore gang problem even when compared with peer cities like St Louis or Detroit. We were taught this as statistical fact in Urban Planning classes at CSU when I was there in the early 90's.

That last rendering look like something from a suburban Columbus freeway...like around Dublin. That's supposed to be Carnegie and 22nd?

Oh yeah, some of them did say NOMBL. At the time I saw them they would have been Flxible Metros

Interesting, I always saw those RTA buses with "maple heights transit" on the front when I was working at Randall Park in the 90's. Always wondered why they had that. Now I know

I work in the industry, and the buzz is that the days of completely open office layouts and high density benching are on the way out. Companies loved it because it cut down the $ Sq Ft per employee from the days of the old cubicles and they could "Pack em In". However, workers generally hate it and Covid just magnified the flaws of it. I'm not saying we will go back to large cubicles, but there will be more sq ft, privacy features and ergonomic features like height adjustable desks in the future design of offices for those returning to work in offices. Also, more floor space will be devoted to collaboration and work/lounge areas scattered all over. So the trend would be less people per floor, which might equate to companies needing more space.

Yeah, you are probably right. I was trying to find a floorplan image online so I could take it into CAD and try and scale it and play around but couldn't find one. In this image imagine if the exterior curtain wall was where the cubicle walls are and the existing windows were removed, that would be an awesome balcony. I think the Marina City balconies are 10' at the widest point, they are really big. Somebody would pay the price for that size balcony and view.