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Would be cool if they could build another exterior wall inside and take out windows to create open balconies on that curved facade. That modular kitchen/ bathroom thing is awesome. Looks like a Knoll furniture dealer had their showroom in the lobby at one point too. That's cool. Maybe they could do a larger pie shaped unit similar to Marina City in Chicago with huge balconies

I had a friend that wanted to sell his 2 flat Cleveland double in North Collinwod about ten years ago, and the city made him do a bunch of upgrades to the exterior. Painting the entire building and reinforcing the upper porch which was sagging mainly. And honestly, his property was one of the best maintained properties on the block, I think it was near Arcade and 156th. I think this is it, and the parking lot to the left used to be a bar. You can see the support he added to prop up the upper porch.

Exactly this! And some of them are now well into many years of taking risks in marginal or forgotten neighborhoods in Chicago and reaping huge benefits from that strategy. The developer partner of Church & State, CEDARst got its start developing in Uptown, a neighborhood that was mostly avoided by developers for many years due to it's high level of Social Service agencies and low income housing. Plus, they probably view proximity to a Great Lake and the Rapid line as truely great assets to build on better than locals.

Despite where Nan is from formally, I imagine as a child in the 70's Indianapolis still looked small in comparision to Cincinnati or Cleveland. To this day driving into Cincinnati is way more impressive looking and feels like a way bigger city than Indy. Add to that she probably went to Kings Island, Sea World/Geauga Lake and/or Cedar Point. Maybe some of our awesome State Parks as well. I can see how a child from Indiana in the 1970's would think Ohio was "Big Time". And I think its cool that she still has that mindset that she thinks Ohio has the potential to be what she thought of it as a child. It's a refreshing thing to hear, instead of an old white dude just talking about bringing "good jobs" back to poor old, beaten down, rusted out Ohio.

I think it's nice to hear her give her perspective of Ohio "Growing up in a small Indiana town, Ohio was the Big Time". It's something negative lifelong Ohioans need to hear since the policies of Ohio for many years have made it regressive and backward. Less like Pennsylvania or New York, and more like Indiana.

Can she even see over the hood if the kid rode his bike down the driveway in front of her?

That's great news! "The Crossings at...(anywhere)" however is the dumbest of suburban fake monikers given to designate a neighborhood, especially within a real city. Sigh

I can't stand all those lawns Downtown, as I've said a few times in certain threads. They look un-evironmental, requiring lots of watering and fertilizing and mowing and there are just too many. Not fitting of a downtown, and are not inviting or usable. Native grasses and plants would be an improvement instead of a 1950's Suburban Dad lawn everywhere.

^ Yeah it's a weird name for sure, the specialty was runners so I guess that was supposed to differentiate it from fashion stores as a serious place for athletes. The HQ at that time was Atlanta, even though it started in Pittsburgh. Not sure how it ended up being Swiss. Anyway, the only stores we had in NE Ohio were Randall Park, Parmatown, Summit Mall and Rolling Acres. At Randall we only sold the hottest shoes and the highest price. Parmatown would get pissed when the district Mgr would make them send all of their Air Jordans (or Dion Sanders or other hot shoes) to us. We'd sell out 100 pairs on the day of release by noon and so would Rolling Acres, Parma sold like 10, Summit Mall a few more. On the flip side, we would happily send Parma all of our "sale" tennis Reebok shoes that sold for $29.99. They sold them like hotcakes, and we never sold a single pair. Summit Mall got the K-Swiss and Stan Smiths.

Wow! It's probably been 10 years since I was in DT Brooklyn, I don't even recognize it.

Edit, realized this was RTA thread

Yeah, tough for Findlay, but at least it keeps them in Ohio. Findlay still has Marathon Petroleum though...they probably say "At least we aren't Lima" there.

I lived in Pilsen in Chicago for many years, and all you can smell all the time is Suavitel and Fabuloso. It gave me a headache

Agree, I work on the 4th floor of a 7 floor old warehouse building turned office building on the Chicago Riverfront in the loop right near many cta and metra lines. Love it. Worked in Suburban office parks, hated it. And I'm GEN-X. McDonalds and Google are in Fulton Market in Mid-rise buildings. McDonalds abandoned a suburban campus building that I believe is being torn down in OakBrook. The setting and access to amenities that aren't limited to the building you are in is the key.

That's terrible paint IMO. I'll only use Benjamin Moore or SW. If SWP is such a conservative company, it makes sense they want a box. I get it, it's boring but as soon as you start adding curves and weird angles the client wants to know if it works as leasable space. If you work at an architecture firm you will need to do tons of interior test fits to show them how they can use it. In turn, the client needs to prove that to prospective tenants that it's a value per sq ft. That is the fear of clients or real estate companies, that the space will be wasteful, unusable and not easy to retrofit. You have to prove they can pack as many workspaces or private offices as possible if needed. And you have to prove that for every zone where the floorplate changes. Even just a curved corner, they want to know how that can be used. And that one floorplate may need to be divided, so now you need to prove to 4 different leasing clients that it is a value. You may need to show them fit outs of how it can be used for offices, or hotel rooms, or even condos. Sears/Willis tower has notoriously hard to rent giant lower floorplates that are sprawling, and dark. Isn't the old circular Ohio Bell/Ameritech/AT&T HQ building (45 Erieview) one of the few non-boxy buildings downtown, and isn't it empty? Those odd floorplates are hard to rent. SW may be the client now, but they may want to sell the building or rent out floors or convert them to other uses in the future. That's probably what they are thinking. Not trying to be a downer, but they are conservative, and clients like that want a box. They could add something of interest to the top though to help. Here are some examples of weird ones I have worked on:

That's amazing. That deep "raked" mortar joint in the bricks is such a Cleveland trait. Seems like every building in Chicago is flush. A friend of mine that does it for a living said the style is a legacy of how the immigrant population of the city did it, not that any way is wrong or right. I like the texture of the deep rake.

If Key, TT and BP were the pinnacle of the skyline, and new towers filled in that stepped down to a nice continuous humped skyline, I think that would make a great Cleveland skyline. The problem now is that the tall towers make everything else look small, with gaps. I don't think this needs to be tall, just tall enough to hit a sweet spot to fill in a few gaps nicely.

That was Foot Locker, we were not as cool

^HAHA, at first I thought this was a joke! Look at the thread above and the rowhouse pic and the Amazon pic. It looks like Amazon bought the townhomes and changed them overnight. Would have been a brilliant joke. MyPhoneDead: I hope those row homes get renovated soon. An absolute gem. marty15: I believe the developer landed a $600k grant to go towards renovating them. Separate developer than Horizon. Nate: Who's the developer, just curious marty15: Amazon

Found this old photo of me at work. The Athlete's Foot store at Randall Park Mall circa 1992. It was right outside the upper level of the May Company entrance.

Limited brands was trying to get a lot of the NYC people to move to Columbus for many years. That is probably over though.

I understand what you are saying, and I figured Glenville would be the argument, or even East Cleveland. But Glenville is the in the city of Cleveland, and that flight from all over the city was typical of the time period that it happened. Once that movement happened out of the city, the suburbs you mention have remained stable and desireable places to live even as they became more integrated IMO. I would add to that list in Cuyahoga County: Lyndhurst, Orange, Woodmere and Solon. The non Jewish suburbs on the east side are the ones that flipped fast as soon as non-whites started to move in. People have been saying Cleveland Heights is going to be the next East Cleveland since the 70's, and that has not happened. The diversity of CH remains as its strength.

I do feel like the Jewish population in Cleveland is less averse to cut and run though, more open to diversity and not as "scared" of these things as the general white population. And there's a reason why Cleveland has Beachwood Mall with Sak's and Nordstrom, there is money in the region, and old money at that. Neither of them are here out of charity, it's a lucrative market. I could see Dillard's pulling out, but who cares, that store is a dump.

How many other cities have a CAK? I'm just asking because Akron/Canton seems like a pretty robust airport that most cities the size of Cleveland don't have 50 miles away from their main airport and Downtown. Wouldn't that be a general aviation reliever? Couldn't they easily handle the pressure? I have no idea, I was just wondering because CAK hasn't been mentioned as a spoke in this aviation wheel of NE Ohio in this thread. It's an inconvenience being 45 min away from where you intended, but is that deal breaker for the FAA?

I always get excited when this thread is active, hoping to see good news about this building. I really love it. Those people are idiots, I'm so annoyed. Look at this sofa, dude it looks still so nice. UGH, you realize this place used to have hotel rooms with sofa's that transformed into a bed when you pushed a button in 1948?? That Ashley sofa is not impressive you dumb ass.