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I don't know if this is the case in Cleveland or not, but I live in a plain old two story building in the Pilsen neighborhood of Chicago built in the late 1800's that has a similar but less ornate cornice as pictured in the historical photo. My friends mother owns the building. She has to pay the city a payment quarterly for insurance that covers damages and liability if the cornice falls off and injures someone on the sidewalk since it technically hangs over the public way. She has thought about removing it, and the building is not protected by any historical restrictions. That was the moment when the light bulb in my head went off...no wonder these old cornices are gone all over the neighborhood. The fee is not cheap. Here's my building: Here is what is next to it. This building probably looked similar to mine when it was built. At some point they probably made the flat roof gable and added space.

Who consulted Akron on the "Aeros" name change? Akron Rubber Ducks is genius, fun, and super marketable.

Maybe it's the angle of the rendering, but my immediate impression was a 1970's mansard roof apartment building.

^For Progressive, you have to understand that Peter B Lewis of Progressive basically bankrolled Frank Gehry's early career as an architect. I saw a Documentary in school about it, but can't recall the name, and can't find it online. I'm sure others here know of it. If it wasn't for Peter B paying him millions to push the limits of architecture and design forward, Frank Gehry would not be the Starchitect he is today...or at least it would have taken longer. He spent millions for Frank to design a house that never got built. So that explains the weird Progressive Tower...which one has to wonder how serious Peter B was about building it. This is from Metropolis Magazine: https://www.metropolismag.com/architecture/peter-b-lewis-philanthropist-and-patron-of-architecture-dies/ "Lewis famously worked with Gehry for more than a decade on a house, whose (largely hypothetical) budget at one point reached $80 million and whose very real fees totaled $5 million. After several iterations, Lewis pulled the plug on the project. “He kept me trying things, exploring things,” Gehry told the Cleveland Plain Dealer’s Steven Litt. “I think he never intended to build the house. He didn’t need it.” The fees generated by the episode—easily one of the century’s most notorious unbuilt projects—helped the Gehry office invest in the computer technology that enabled the creation of the Guggenheim Bilbao and helped spawn the digital architecture paradigm. Gehry once said working on the Lewis house was like receiving a MacArthur genius award."

Ohio is no beacon of Native American conservation either, so the respect of the culture is not there: http://www.native-languages.org/ohio.htm#:~:text=There are no federally recognized,Indian Removals of the 1800's.&text=They were moved to Indian reservations in Oklahoma instead. "There are no federally recognized Indian tribes in Ohio today. Most Native Americans were forced to leave Ohio during the Indian Removals of the 1800's. ... They were moved to Indian reservations in Oklahoma instead."

It's not that hard to find out why "Indians" is probably not an appropriate term. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_name_controversy#:~:text=When he landed in the,Indians" in various European languages. When he landed in the Antilles, Columbus referred to the resident peoples he encountered there as "Indians" reflecting his purported belief that he had reached the Indian Ocean.[4] The name stuck; for centuries the native people of the Americas were collectively called "Indians" in various European languages. This misnomer was perpetuated in place naming; the islands of the Caribbean were named, and are still known as, the West Indies. Objections to the usage of "Indian" and "American Indian" include the fact that "Indian" arose from a historical error, and thus does not accurately reflect the derivation of the people to whom it refers; and some feel that the term has absorbed negative and demeaning connotations through its historical usage that render it objectionable in context. Additionally, "American Indian" is often understood to mean only the peoples of the mainland body of the United States, which excludes other Native Americans in the United States who are considered indigenous peoples of the Americas; including the Haida, Tlingit, Athabascan, Inuit, Yup'ik (Yuits/Alutiiq/Cup'ik), Iñupiat, Aleut (i.e., the groups whose traditional languages are Eskimo–Aleut languages), Marshallese, and Samoan; who are referred to collectively as either Alaskan Natives, First Nations, Native Hawaiians or Siberians. Supporters of the terms "Indian" and "American Indian" argue that they have been in use for such a long period of time that many people have become accustomed to them and no longer consider them exonyms. Both terms are still widely used today. "American Indian" appears often in treaties between the United States and the indigenous peoples with whom they have been negotiating since the colonial period, and many federal, state and local laws also use it.[1

People have short memories, Cleveland being progressive and hosting the Gay Games in 2014 is a distant memory. It added to the the national perception or progression...but you have to keep on keeping on. Ohio is so bad at marketing in general. Boring and plain, and a follower. I only mention the Gay Games because it is probably the only coup the state of Ohio has achieved in recent decades to show of it's relevance as a progressive northern state. Something that has history, but has been lost.

Stop at the Canal Boat Lounge in Canal Fulton. Great multiple level outdoor deck on the Towpath. Full disclosure, I know the owner, but it's a great spot.

Haha! That's good. If they change the name before the Redskins do, Cleveland will look progressive as a city. Something it does need to do to promote its image as such a place....which I think it is. Most of the country still doesn't think so unfortunately. It could help.

I went to Catholic grade school and High school in NE Ohio around Akron/Canton. We never once went on any such retreats. I've never even heard of it. It even sounds creepy. We once had a field trip planned to go to Greenfield Village/Henry Ford Museum in Detroit in 3rd grade where they wanted to hire a plane to fly us. One kids parents objected to flying, so we went on chartered bus. That's about my weirdest Catholic School story. My parents would have paid without question..to fly to Detroit?

I don't support them. I am glad P&G is an Ohio company, but I have no need for things that retain fake scents for for an eternity. I have lost confidence in their products because of the emphasis on scent that seemingly never goes away.

I like the CTS logo better than RTA's. I feel it could be tweaked easily to be quite modern and iconic and simple. I don't know why I hate RTA's so much, but I do.

Didn't realize Cost Plus World Market was still a thing. The ones I know of have closed.

Downtown Sandusky and Port Clinton should definitely go after the market of being the new go to place for tourist lodging/entertainment/dining in the area for a slightly more sophisticated customer. Most of the schlock hotels/motels and restaurants that exist on the state routes feeding CP are really really bad, and not cheap in high season, and stuck in the past. The infrastructure, walkablility and authenticity of both towns is remarkable.

cleveland.com has won it's well earned race to the bottom. Just clicked on it, and under "news" this is a top story. A dumb opinion piece about walkers in strongsville (are there any?) and the "parade of broken bones" on the horizon since the sidewalks have been made ADA accessible. Can't make this stuff up. "Lunn and Pearl roads is almost as steep as a ski jump." https://www.cleveland.com/letters/2020/05/strongsville-curb-modifications-are-a-safety-hazard.html

Old Orchard Mall in Skokie IL was built in 1956 and is an outdoor mall to this day. Anchors are Nordstrom, Macy's and Bloomingdales (Saks and Lord & Taylor also at one point that made 5 anchors). It has an office tower in the center thats maybe like 8-9 stories. Looks to be mostly medical offices. Similar demographics as Beachwood. Old money clientele, inner ring suburb, is on public transit lines, and has had some crime problems. Still keeps chugging along. https://www.loopnet.com/Listing/16810663/64-Old-Orchard-Shopping-Center-Skokie-IL/

"Northwest Orient" Airlines billboard, wow! These pics are great, glad they are back.

^That makes sense, looking on the map I figured more like 20 miles actual distance. I've been there, and you were lucky to see the skyscrapers of downtown let alone the Hollywood sign. She's pretty high up. They bought it for the million dollar view. The house is a nice little 1950's ranch house. It's a tear down to the next buyer.

The air quality is definitely changing fast. The skies have been really blue here in Chicago as well. My sister lives south of LAX in Redondo Beach CA up on a hill. She can see the Hollywood sign right now from her back deck. Something she said has not happened since they moved in, in the late 90's. Not sure what the mileage is as the crow flies, but a driving map on Google puts Redondo Beach to the Hollywood sign at 30 miles. I'll ask her to send me a pic

We had a conversation on a thread once. But I can't find the thread. I had been to an event in Chicago where Flats Chicago said they were venturing out of Chicago with their first project in another city, and it was Cleveland. They were known as Cedar Street too. The company website is https://www.cedarst.com/ Website looks to be under some changes. The one original guy from Flats Chicago died and he was on a Bravo reality show called 100 days of summer.

@KJP Did I tell you I found out that this was the project that FLATS Chicago is involved with?

I really like that Knez guy. He's doing urban stuff in Akron too. I thought it was pronounced Nezz not Ka-nezz. You learn something new everyday. Some of the designs are mediocre though, but they have an opening for an architect on the website. I do interiors, or I'd apply and come back to Ohio. Get an UrbanOhioan Architect in that company and take it up a notch!!

UA sucks, packing so many flights into ORD has caused a lot of people to hate them in Chicago. It's too many damn flights, and they all get delayed the more they pack them in.

I was about to say with such a big store maybe H&M would bring in some of the Swedish Brand "Cheap Monday" they owned, but after googling it, it looks they killed it off. It was more mid market better made stuff than H&M. They still have COS (Council of Style) which is the better brand.

That's weird. I see them a lot in Chicago with IN and WI plates. And rode in them. Their excuse is that it is the only way for them to make a lot of money in a short period of time and that they can't do it where they live. A lot from the far burbs like Naperville too. They have zero idea where they are going in the city, and I have to tell them where to go and not use the GPS...their GPS does not work well with places like lower Wacker Dr, and not taking a freeway. I also have had a college students that rented a car on the weekend to do it. Maybe that explains out of state plates too. I have gone back to taking cabs more. Usually same price or cheaper.