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Cincinnati May Revamp Streetcar System :clap: Streetcars will bring life and rebirth along the entire route.

yea your right.. I have been staring at my empty but well preserved can of Hudy 14K for a long time.

Dang it!! You owe me a can of Hudy just for saying that!! :cry:

Unclerando, I have been thinking the same for years. Let's start a petition. What sounds better...Going for a stroll down republic st? or..........Let's go for a stroll down Bremen? OTR and Prosepect Hill were built by Germans for Germans. Heck even the St. Marien Kirche bricks were baked at homes by locals. Ok for the people who don't like the name the OTR brewery district how about------- Über den Brauerei-Bezirk von Rhein =Over the Rhine Brewery District I kinda of like the ring of it :-)

I am kinda dissapointed they don't even have a kroger parking garage... :-D

It is between Fort View at the top and Hill St.(At the bottom of Hill St.) These stairs have something in common with rice st steps on mulberry in that there is door access to a home only accessible by the stairs.

Jimmy, LOL I thought you were such a snazzy dresser I thought you were your avatar.. :-D Thanks for the history lesson.

Street names in "Uber'm Rhein" should change to original names before the German hysteria in the early 20th century.

Work has started on franks F's place in the 400 block of milton st. There is even a portolet on site. Sorry to keeping beating up the stairbashers but I had to post this.. Oh and I am not sure if this was listed on another topic but Mt. Adams will soon have a set of new stairs. Very close to where the incline was. it will be completed by 08 from what I have heard, linking lower mt adams to upper. :-) Saw this on another topic thought it was relevant here. * The Collins Street steps. Here is a letter, dated November 6, 2006, from Tim Burke to Caleb Faux, Chair of the City Planning Commission, regarding the ILLEGAL closure of the steps. http://www.cincinnati-oh.gov/cdap/downloads/cdap_pdf15093.pdf As a result, there will now be a hearing in front of the City Planning Commission on January 19, 2007. The staff recommends DENIAL of the closure for the following reasons: 1) The public steps are an important part of the city's overall transportation system 2) DOTE followed the city's step-closure policy and recommended that the steps remain in use, be repaired, and be monitored and maintained--as soon as possible 3) Closure should be done as a final alternative only, and closing these stairs without exhausting all other options could set a bad precedent regarding future decisions about the city's transportation network.

I drove by there a week before and saw the sign was gone. :-( It's back! Awesome news.

This building is amazing. The best angle is from the entrance ramp to the bridge towards cincinnati. WOW! :-o

Well it wouldn't have been much of a crime wave if 2 mulberries had not told the world about how bad they're neighborhood is. Heck there is a bullet hole in the back of the little house for sale I posted a few messages back and it didn't make the evening news. . A temporary closure will turn into a permanent closure. I can guarantee that. The city is always looking to spend less money and stairs are expensive to maintain. But how many other cities boast more public stairs than cincinnati, only 1 San fransisco. Stairs are something we should not take for granted and they should be protected at all costs.

So putting a sign up that says "closed" is going to stop these gangstas? The only thing it is going to do is make ME have to lug my groceries over the top of the STEPS CLOSED sign and hopefully not break any of my Fresh amish eggs! I carry my cell phone and call the cops everytime I see suspicious activites. Guess that area will become more unsafe. Oh well I can drive to findlay market instead of walk. That of course wasn't the reason I chose to live here but... This reminded me about the klotter steps topic. One reason I chose NOT to live on klotter st. Sorry John. http://www.cincypost.com/news/1998/steps031998.html Some see city's steps as pathways for crime By Sarah Sturmon, Post staff reporter For residents of Klotter Street and Conroy Alley, the three sets of steps stretching up from West McMicken are ''conduits of crime.'' For the residents of West McMicken and parts lower, the steps are arteries to playgrounds and the rest of their neighborhood. This week, the two sides squared off over a request to close the steps in order to alleviate crime in the neighborhood. But some say the request is really about walling off a poorer, needier section of a neighborhood from a more affluent, successful section. ''This is classism and economic segregation,'' said Eunice Ravenna, a resident of West McMicken and an opponent of the closing. ''This is a reaction that has not been well thought out.'' But others say differently. They say they are simply trying to protect themselves from thieves and vandals who use the steps as a fast getaway after their crimes. ''This is about common sense,'' said Ken Carmichael, a resident of the neighborhood. Cincinnati City Council Wednesday unanimously approved the request to close most portions of the neighborhood steps. The Klotter and Conroy steps are among the 393 sets of steps that exist in the city of Cincinnati. Faced with an increasing number of requests to close steps, the city established a step policy in 1994. The policy requires input from community groups, step users and city agencies before any set of steps are closed. Currently, city records show that only 45 sets of steps have been closed, some for decades. Of those steps that have been closed, 37 were requested for closure or to remain closed by the community, city records show. Thirteen of the 37 closed steps are steps leading up to Columbia Parkway, where pedestrian traffic is no longer allowed. The Klotter Homeowner's Association gave the city last year a request to close the steps that stretch from West McMicken to Klotter and Conroy along Baymiller Street, Freeman Avenue and Kress Alley. The request is supported by the Clifton Heights-University Heights-Fairview neighborhood, which surrounds the area on three sides. However, the request was opposed by the Over-the-Rhine Community Council, which makes up the southern border of the area. The OTR Community Council says the closure would create a ''wall'' between the new development happening on Klotter and the poorer, needier neighbors along West McMicken. Instead, the community council is suggesting better lighting. ''This would be just another barrier between the more developed upper middle-class area from the poorer, needier streets,'' said Patricia Powers, a resident of West McMicken who protested the closing. Others, like Myrtle Ellington, say it would prevent her from using Fairview Park which is in the upper area - something she does routinely with her great-grandchildren. But others, like Tom Walter, said the closure is needed. ''Allow us to close our neighborhood's back door,'' he asked council. Walter points to three months of crime statistics that were gathered by the neighborhood as proof the closure is needed. According to those statistics, there was one reported crime every three days on Klotter and Conroy avenues. And most, according to the map drawn by the neighborhood, were in the vicinity of the steps. In a report to council earlier this month, the city administration recommended that the Baymiller Street and Freeman Avenue steps be closed temporarily but that the Kress Alley steps remain open while the police division reviews crime statistics on the effect of the steps closing. Following council action Wednesday, the steps will be closed except for a portion of the Baymiller steps to allow access to the playground and the section of the Kress Alley steps that run up to the neighborhood church. Council also asked the city for further review of the effect before the closing is made permanent. Publication date: 03-19-98

YES! City steps have been a part of my entire life starting with my grandmas steps in South Fairmount and the wonderful steps here in PH which I use to get the busline on reading rd and to get to Gods bible to vote. The steps here have a little drug activity and prostitution and yes they are used for a car breakin getaways, but do I want them temporarily shut down because of it? no way! Mulberry is a great street to break in a car and getaway by bike. Same as PH. I use the steps to vine to get to findlay market since the shortcut (lang St) is always full of gangstas and dealers. Staying on the topic of development. This is right next to where 2 condos are going to be built on liberty hill. 435 Corporation Alley is on the market they wanted an extremely steep 130,000 for this cute little woodframe that needs alot of tlc looks like the price is under 100k now. I would take it for 50. probably needs about 100k to fix it right. investors needed!! call this development alley!! handyman special..rough but very doable..home needs some work but in the right area.. use imagination.. city view is incredible $98,900

Hey, I use those steps!! Don't even temporarily close them. Good news on the rest of the activities.

I was thinking the same thing. I was really surprised Chris and Joe would go on camera like that. I can see the neighborhood newbie who got her van torched, maybe she is a renter, who can get out easy but land developers and home owning residents?? Oh well, makes the shells more affordable. I need a 2nd home. :-D

Yup even happens in fairfield. A bullet was found right next to a babys crib.

The Ford Truck in the dead mall was my favorite.

I did the Carriage thing with my brother and his son and had a great time on the square during the holidays. He hadn't been downtown in years (moved out-of-state) and was impressed with the new square and the buzz downtown.

Cool idea but I could not take the nonstop kenny G music blaring less than a block away. I like how the people are walking in the middle of vine st.

The highway noise is unbearable outside. I hope they have good sound proofing!!!

I walked my dog downtown around 6 on sunday and it was a ghost-town. I passed 2 people "Both bums" who asked for change. Walked down 6th st and shanghai mamas was closed, so was that mexican place. Then walked past the CAC it was closed, crossed the street to take the tunnel shortcut to the square. It was closed! saw a family trying to go the same way. THEN walked past the arbys and the family was harrased by some more bums. got to the square the SAME DANG KENNY G picture on the video screen!! The ice skating rink was closed. Walked vine to 4th st down 4th then walked across the purple people eater bridge passed 5 people all were at the newport side. My dog and I got bored and walked home...sigh.

I should have mentioned that I was a looking for FREE on-street parking and was in a rush. I don't park downtown unless it's free. I am a cheapass. :lol: I lived on fourth street for 2 years and know where all the nook and cranny spots are and they happened to be full. But hey I guess that's a good thing I couldn't find free parking. Downtown is attracting more people after work hours.

Went down to take the little one to see the trains at CGE a few days ago then go to fountain sqaure. No place to park 4-6 no parking on the main streets. Gave up and risked parking 5:45 got there and they were shutting the doors. Many families were headed in to see the trains but were turned away. bah humbug! :-D Also an advertisement with kenny G on the video screen(slideshow advertising). I am not too impressed.

My old buddy designed the 5th and race parking lot. He lives on the west coast now. It would be a good time to get back in touch with him and tell him the bad news :lol: Build this dang thing NOW!