KyleCincy

OSU will always recruit well, doesn't matter where UC is, and they have a locked in fan base. UCs base would grow a little. I mean jeez, Indiana has IU, Purdue and ND. UC and OSU can coexist in the same conference, it benefits Ohio.

But UC is dam near an AAU school, and a top 25 Public research school and the BIG label for UC would only bring in more $$$ to Ohio, that has to trump all. I don't think OSU is scared or concerned like maybe 15 years ago. Gee chairs the task force on statewide university funding. Anyway word on the street is that the Big 12 has been told they need to go to at least 12, or add 2 more schools for a CCG. Do they raid 2 ACC schools, or grab UC, does UC end up in the ACC?

Any chance Kasich & others can work with Gee to sneak UC into the Big Ten?

I really Like Ft. Lauderdale Beach, if you want Art Deco and wild bars, then S. Beach. Ft. Lauderdale Beach Hilton is where I stay. Great Ocean, coastal waterway and views of Donwtown. Very popular with the Euros. City View, Best Restaurant down there is Casablanca Cafe

The writer of the article, who is a Transit guy, I think detailed where shorter line (3-9 mile loops) work well and make economic sense Anderson Twp. Also own rental property that I renovated, Mt. Auburn. Lived in Clifton - Univ Heights - Walnut Hills from 85-98. When I move back to the city it will be Mt. Auburn. (slight possibility of OTR).

What's the combined population of downtown and uptown? Might be about 100k. I bet your guess is pretty darn accurate. Edit City website says about 70,000. Not sure how well they track students who reside in the areas near Campus though.

Athens Georgia, not Ohio. Again "The highest and best use for a streetcar system is to connect dense student housing, a university, a functioning downtown, and a regional shopping venue, hospital, or other large attractor in a community of around 100,000 people" In other words OTR-downtown should be connected to both campuses at UC from day 1.

The meat and potatoes that I found interesting was, "Downtown boosterism has worked best in places like Madison, Charlottesville, Burlington, Boulder, and Morgantown. These are college towns, where young, relatively active people are accustomed to walking around universities that serve as second downtowns. College towns are ideal for public transit because they follow the original purpose of moving people from nearby suburbs to the CBD. Students tend to live in clustered housing near the university, their primary destination. Of the 30 most transit-efficient cities in the U.S. (defined by the number of passenger trips per mile of transit service provided), 16 are college towns such as Athens, Iowa City, Chapel Hill, and Ann Arbor. The other 14 are mainly large, dense cities with excellent rail transport such as San Francisco, Boston, Los Angeles, New York, and Washington, D.C. (all of which also have significant student populations, though not the 25 percent threshold I use to classify college towns). The highest and best use for a streetcar system is to connect dense student housing, a university, a functioning downtown, and a regional shopping venue, hospital, or other large attractor in a community of around 100,000 people. Athens, Gainesville, Norman, and Bloomington are ideal for this type of alignment (as is Lansing, which has opted to build a bus rapid transit system). We already have models for how to do this. Three systems in France provide exactly this kind of service: LeMans, Orleans, and Reims carry between 35,000 and 48,000 trips daily on systems that have between 6.9 and 11.2 miles of track. These streetcars—called tramways there—not only serve universities and downtowns but also take advantage of the tram’s small footprint by wending between buildings, using rights of way that are useless to larger mass transit vehicles or automobiles"

I didn't get that feeling at all. The writer Sam Scheib runs a transit website, all kinds of articles and blogs on mass transit, rail, bus lines, of varying opinions. http://www.tripplannermag.com/index.php/category/transit-supportive-content/

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Are you trolling us Kyle or are you being purposefully obtuse? 549 pages on this topic, not going to go through all of them. Which is why I asked a question related to the article. Who is "US".

Has this article ever been posted here? http://reason.com/archives/2012/09/27/the-streetcar-swindle

Why isn't the city agreeing to pay for this cost? Seems like these utility relocation costs will be paid by Duke customers that live outside the city also? Seems like metro residents that live outside the city benefit from progress the city makes in revitalization also? It is a city project. The city should agree to pay the utility relocation costs. This was discussed numerous pages before. But the City believes that Duke has a legal obligation to cover those costs themselves. The city offered to pay some of them, and Duke balked. Someone else can probably explain it better... or you could go back a few pages... OK thanks for the info.

Why isn't the city agreeing to pay for this cost? Seems like these utility relocation costs will be paid by Duke customers that live outside the city also? Seems like metro residents that live outside the city benefit from progress the city makes in revitalization also? It is a city project. The city should agree to pay the utility relocation costs.

Why isn't the city agreeing to pay for this cost? Seems like these utility relocation costs will be paid by Duke customers that live outside the city also?

Very easy to get around the paywall, but not much interesting stuff over there these days.

Does anybody here pay for the .com enquirer site?

in 1890 having indoor plumbing would have been rare, even for an expensive home or wealthy folk.

Tuberville is no more of a snake than Jones, or Kelly or anybody. Glad UC hired him. His staff will recruit very well which is really important as UC is in conference purgatory. Tubs to the SEC might not be accurate at all. His wife is from the area and has family around here. Arkansas, Tennessee had openings and he did not get a call from them. Time will tell. There is noise that Travis Kelce might get selected in Round 1, over the TEs from ND, Stanford etc. That hasn't happened since Greg Cook in 69', for a UC player. Another one of those 1-2 star high school recruits. Some of these recruiting sites are a joke.

I thought that article was in depth, covered multiple sides or angles.

Good move for TRicom, top shelf Class A building, with Class B rental rates. They inherit mens and womens locker rooms, fitness room, whirlpools, saunas, on the 9th Floor. 7th Floor will be gutted and designed as very cool open space.

Not always the case. The community should have a big say here. Too often, developers are more concerned with the bottom line. With this, and many other developments, it's the difference between making a huge profit or making a decent sized profit. When it comes to what the community gets in those 2 scenarios, the differences can be jarring. Who is the community?

Gensler has been mighty good about not releasing any renderings or elevations.

I think they is about where it ends up. As Whit said he likes round numbers. Very interested in the Loge Seating, although I like my Shank Pavillion seats.

Thanks for linking that up. Cliff notes of press conference, He said the is about changing the revenue model and playing games at PBS does not do so...several reasons of the top of my head 1. Lack of Control over concessions 2. Lack of Control over parking 3. Sharing of ticket revenues (Said last years two trips to PBS cost the Cats in the 6 figures) 4. Lack of Control over the luxury suits 5. Having their own luxury suits is a great way to connect with big donors and corporations. 6. Said he wants the athletic programs to be a gateway for the University and that taking games away from Campus takes away from on campus visibility 7. Said kids coming down to the first game at Nippert are often seeing UC's campus for the first time and that hopefully it will lead them back to UC. 8. Mentioned last years survey and the ticket holders overwhelmingly preferred Nippert Stadium. 9. Said the players and coaches preferred Nippert. I may be missing some stuff, but that's top of my head. Over 250,000 fans come to watch UC football games, wants them on Campus and uptown supporting the clifton university community. And some of those 250K fans are grade school and high school aged kids who you want to bring on campus (not downtown) to show off UC so they'll consider UC for college when the time comes. http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=608119&pid=8721576#pid8721576